From "Reveal": Bad Bunny, Billionaires and the Business of Sports
episodePreviously titled “Reveal: Bad Bunny, Billionaires, and the Business of Sports” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 3, 2026
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Okay, so what is this episode that has just popped into our feed? That was a good question, beloved member of our audience. This is an episode that I taped with a podcast called Reveal. And I want you to know about Reveal because Reveal is one of these institutions in the world of investigative journalism, one of these entities that I think people should consume even more than they do already. And I appeared on an episode of their weekly franchise called More to the Story, where they had questions about how we do our jobs here, as well as, you know, what I thought about Bad Bunny and the Super Bowl and capitalism, and also the story we reported with Mother Jones and Madison Pauly about Riley Gaines, which you should also check out if you have not already.
Anyway, this is me talking to Reveal.
How does Bad Bunny's presence at the Super Bowl reflect capitalism?
I hope you enjoy. The reason to have Bad Bunny at the Super Bowl is not anything, I think, resembling a cultural, enlightened progressivism.
What challenges does investigative sports journalism face today?
It's merely you want an audience that can become customers. But because Bad Bunny speaks Spanish, this is now wokeism. And I'm like, this is, it's capitalism.
On this week's More to the Story, veteran sports journalist Pablo Torre. As the Super Bowl approaches, we talk about the NFL's recurring problems surrounding race and how a flood of money is transforming sports in America.
How did Pablo Torre become involved in sports journalism?
Stay with us.
This is more to the story. I'm Al Edson. Just a few decades ago, investigative sports journalism was thriving. There were high profile TV shows, national magazines and intrepid reporters around the country who went deep and connected the dots on some of the most important issues in sports. But today, many of those outlets are gone or shells of what they once were. And that's meant that sports in the U.S., one of the most dominant elements of American culture, has often been left without probing journalism that shines a light on athletes, owners, leagues, and the tens of billions of dollars they generate every year. One of the reporters who stepped into that void is Pablo Torre. Previously a writer at Sports Illustrated and an ESPN contributor, Pablo is now the host of the podcast Pablo Torre Finds Out.
It's an investigative show that has broken big stories in sports that had gone unnoticed or underreported. And Pablo says understanding sports in America, especially today, is easy. You just got to follow the money. Pablo, welcome to the show.
Al, thanks for having me. A very kind introduction.
I'm curious if you can just like rewind the clock a little bit and tell me your superhero origin story. Like, how did Pablo Torre get sucked into the world of sports?
You're suggesting that my rippling athletic physique is not self-evidently my origin story, Al?
You know, like we're we're podcasts and they can't see you. So I just wanted you to kind of lay it out for people so that they understood. It's a 14 pack.
That's what is through my sweater. I grew up loving sports because I am the first person in my family to have been born in America. And so for me, I have in our family. an articulated sort of idea of this that wasn't apparent back then. But if you ask me the question in those terms, I answer in the sense of sports was my passport to knowing what this country is like and could still be like, which is to say I got to talk to people who had nothing in common with me and sort of like microwave friendships and social intimacy. And I loved, you know, I grew up watching sports. The 92 Dream Team and Michael Jordan, they were superheroes to me. And so in that way, I got to realizing, oh, wait a minute. Yeah, I love playing like pickup basketball and stuff, but developing a sense of the lore of sports was this social...
connectivity that nothing else provided.
What is the political significance of sports in America?
And then when you combine that with a general desire to figure out, okay, how do I express myself? And that's going to be through writing. And how do I want to spend my time? It turns out it involves like writing down statistics pathetically in a notebook for myself as if those numbers need to be preserved like Talmudically by me for the benefit of like posterity.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–0:39
2
How does Bad Bunny's presence at the Super Bowl reflect capitalism?
0:39–0:53
3
What challenges does investigative sports journalism face today?
0:53–1:20
4
How did Pablo Torre become involved in sports journalism?
1:20–4:11
5
What is the political significance of sports in America?
4:11–5:35
6
How is Riley Gaines impacting the debate on transgender athletes?
5:35–8:44
7
What are the implications of legalized sports betting?
8:44–11:40
8
How does money influence the integrity of sports?
11:40–38:54
Speakers
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