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"This Was A Bad Idea" – Andrew Callaghan’s WILD Coverage Of BLM Riots, COVID Protests & Border Chaos | PBD Podcast | Ep. 580
Thu, 24 Apr 2025
Patrick Bet-David sits down with Andrew Callaghan of Channel 5 to discuss citizen journalism, censorship, Trump, homelessness, Scientology, and why Gen Z is turning anti-establishment. 📺 ANDREW CALLAGHAN'S YOUTUBE CHANNEL: https://bit.ly/42ri6S1 🎥 ANDREW CALLAGHAN'S NEW DOCUMENTARY: https://bit.ly/4jKIL1T------👕 THE LATEST VT MERCH: https://bit.ly/3BZbD6l🥤THE VT YETI COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4iHfe8Q📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": https://bit.ly/41rtEV4📰 VTNEWS.AI: https://bit.ly/3OExClZ🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/4g57zR2🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.
Chapter 1: What was Andrew Callaghan's scariest moment while filming?
The future looks bright. A handshake is better than anything I ever saw. It's right here. How you doing?
I'm good. Thanks for having me. It's great to be back in the country's greatest state.
Greatest state?
I think so.
Really?
Florida.
And you're saying it's living in L.A.?
Yeah. I want to live in L.A. for a year and a half, but I think I might have a Floridian future.
You do? You may have it.
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Chapter 2: How does Andrew Callaghan view citizen journalism?
No, I think you will be. I think your only reason you won't is because you're going to be your own enemy and get in your own way. If you kind of buckle down and stay disciplined, I think you're going to get there. And I think you'll be a very, very influential voice in citizen journalism in America.
Thanks.
And help a lot of us that maybe we don't have the time to go there. We'll be like, okay, where's he at now? Oh, shit. I didn't know that. That's what it looks like. But going back to it, you're not a Trump guy.
Mm-hmm.
But you said when I asked you about Romney, somehow we went to Scientology. Yeah. Right. Which was a very weird left turn we took.
Well, I think it was the Mormon Scientology.
Mormon.
However, that happened.
Yeah. But would you put him more like do you think Romney is more with President Bush or do you think Romney is more friends with Trump?
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Chapter 3: What are the challenges of covering protests?
Yeah, but I wouldn't call Lil Pump a conservative MC. Lil Pump is just kind of a product of the bygone SoundCloud rap era. If that scene was still continuing, I don't think he would have done the Trump appearance.
Got it. Okay, let's go to the next one, Rob. Next one I want to go is the Tesla rally.
Yeah.
What was that like, going to the Tesla, protesting the rally? What was that like?
I actually sent correspondence there. I sent my friend Albie here to the Tesla boycott in Palo Alto. I was in Jamaica for like an anniversary trip at the time when this was going down. Then I sent another friend of mine to the one in Burbank. But yeah, it was kind of interesting like with the Tesla boycott movement. I see it as a broader offshoot of the anti-Elon stop the coup movement.
But then at some point after that began, they started targeting Tesla factories directly. And their idea was that if they lower – you know, Tesla stock price that will in turn take away from Elon's economic power, which would disempower Trump in some capacity.
Right. And again, this goes back to the Joker to me, because in the movie Joker, Elon would be Batman and Joker would be the guys that are going after him. Right. It's funny. We're in, we're in DC. Is it January 20th? Is it inauguration, Rob? Yes. So we go to this party.
Oh, CPAC. It was actually CPAC.
Was it CPAC or inauguration?
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Chapter 4: Why do younger generations feel disillusioned with traditional politics?
Yeah, so that was when it first popped off.
How many people own the news companies? How many? Well, you tell me. Three or four. How many does Disney own? How many? How many? I don't know. Well, maybe you ought to find out. You're in the media, are you?
Yeah, but I'm independent. You're independent of what? Independent media. Me and this guy. It's called All Gas, No Breaks. You're bad. Exactly. Exactly.
That's the idea.
I don't have a badge.
This shit was crazy, man. I'm giving some flashbacks.
This is April of 2020, the peak. And this is in L.A.
or this is... This is in Sacramento at the California State Capitol. And as you can see, we were... I don't know if you were right, how you felt when the thing first happened, but I was definitely nervous, you know, pre-vaccine, you know, all that. It was pretty... unsure time for people. And I think that that caused many to gravitate toward the extreme directions.
You had people who were like, I'm never going to wear a mask. One guy here had a shirt that said, cough in my face. And he was saying, everybody cough in my face. I don't care who you are. Young, sick, old, cough in my face. I will show you. And then you had people who were literally like refusing to go outside of their house. I remember in Seattle, uh,
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Chapter 8: How has Andrew Callaghan's work evolved over the years?
Not under the Shah. The Shah was like open. Oh, I mean Khomeini, sorry. Yeah, under Khomeini, you do not want to... You're walking on eggshells under Khomeini when you were a Christian at my time. It was uncomfortable. It was... you couldn't go out and be too public about it. See, there's a couple things when you talk about Iran and you talk about America.
And for me, when you grow up as a kid, you're like, whoa, why can't I be a Christian here? Why can't I be public about it? Why is this so judgmental and unsafe and you've got to be careful and all this other stuff? And Then you come to America, you're like, yeah, you're a Muslim? Great. Go to Detroit. Take over Detroit. Take over Dearborn. Do what you want to do. You want to be a Scientologist?
Go to L.A. Build it up. Go to Tampa. No problem. You want to be a Mormon? Go to Utah. Do your thing. You want to be Jehovah? So it's like, you know, it allows you to do it. This country being a great one. But going back to it, establishment asked the anti-establishment. We're talking about Trump.
Mm-hmm.
And your industry is talking to, you would be a what? Are you a Gen Z?
I think I'm on like the very late Gen Z. Right. Yeah, I'm like the last, I'm like the oldest Gen Z person. Wow, you're old. You know how there's like the Aries Taurus cusp, which is today?
Yeah.
I'm like that for Gen Z. I'm not a millennial, but I'm definitely not Gen Alpha. Like when I was a kid, I was like playing with sticks and kicking rocks around.
Still, so you experienced that?
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