Jimmy Akin DESTROYS James White | Last Call Ep. 32
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What is the purpose of the episode and who is the guest?
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The reason not to become a Roman Catholic is the gospel.
One thing I would say is, based on that clip, James White doesn't know what the gospel is. His particular understanding of justification by faith, which involves the idea that it can never be lost, that is not the gospel.
Jimmy Akin. Matt Fradd. Thank you for coming on to my show. It is my pleasure. Today we're going to check out James White. You've heard of him? Maybe debated him a few times?
Not striking a bell,
but I'll do the best I can. Well, today I want to show you four different TikToks or shorts of him and have you respond to them. Oh, okay. So let's just jump into it. Here's the first one.
If you do not have in the sacrifice of Christ a finished work that accomplishes what Father, Son, and Spirit intended in eternity past, then you cannot have any certainty as to the results. You cannot have any certainty as to the righteousness that is imputed, availing before the Father, because you don't have the intercessory work, because that's not a finished work either. Rome, in its worship, has Jesus upon a cross everywhere. And yet what his word says he accomplished... on that cross is not proclaimed from the pulpit of the Roman Catholic Church because they don't have a finished work. By turning it into something that is represented, not a new sacrifice, but an unbloody representation of the one sacrifice that does not perfect anyone for whom it is made.
Okay. Could you pause it
a
second? Because he's – now, whoever edited this, they've thrown together a bunch of different things. And there's not a consistent through line on it in terms of what he just said. It doesn't make a lot of grammatical sense. But there is a common underlying element that – it's going to be more obvious to a Calvinist listener than to someone from another perspective, because James White is a, he's a Calvinistic Baptist or Reformed Baptist, as it's commonly said, and he's doing something that a lot of Calvinists do. Now, in the Calvinist view, God determines everything, every single thing that happens in world history. God makes a choice for where every molecule moves in space. And so if any event happens on a Calvinist view, it's because God chose that.
And this generates problems for most Christians. Most Christians are not Calvinists. They will say there needs to be a role for free will where God doesn't pick the choices that you make. And if he does pick them, your will's not generally free. Now, Calvinists try to defend the idea that, okay, you can have free will and this strong divine determinism. And what commonly happens with apologists like James White is they will point out that Catholics have a different point of view and gloss over the fact that all other Protestants
have
a different point of view.
As well.
So they're selectively picking on Catholics here, because Catholics, from a Reformation perspective, they're the bad guys. But Lutherans and Methodists and Baptists who aren't Calvinists and non-denominationals and Pentecostals, well, they're all our brother Protestants, so we don't want to talk smack about them. It's just those battle Catholics who that are preserved in a role for free will. So, they'll say the way they present it. Now, in other contexts, they will note that other Protestants also have a role for free will, but what frequently will happen is they will selectively ignore that when they're interacting with Catholics and make it sound like these Catholics deny the complete plan of God and the sufficiency of God's plan because they want to claim that when Jesus redeemed the world on the cross, he didn't really redeem the world.
He just redeemed those people that God has chosen to save.
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What is the purpose of the episode and who is the guest?
0:00–7:13
2
How does Jimmy Akin critique James White’s first TikTok clip about the “finished work” of Christ?
7:13–13:25
3
What does Akin say about James White’s use of Calvinist theology to attack Catholicism?
13:25–21:09
4
How does Akin define the true gospel versus White’s “perseverance of the saints” view?
21:09–29:12
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