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Radiolab

How to Cure What Ails You

16 May 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the significance of Mental Health Awareness Month?

1.485 - 27.969 Jad Abumrad

This is Radiolab. I'm Lulu Miller. It's May, which means we are right in the middle of Mental Health Awareness Month. And because of that, I found myself thinking about an episode we did many years ago about what was at the time a brand new way of peeking inside the brain to try to see various mental health conditions like depression and many other things. It's a fascinating piece.

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28.169 - 49.933 Jad Abumrad

And while it was recorded 17 years ago, and you'll find some of the language reflects that time, the question at the heart of the story is really timeless, really provocative, really fascinating. So we are going to air it today. And at the end, I will be back with a short update on where some of the technology has come in the subsequent years. So here we go.

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50.213 - 54.754 Jad Abumrad

Buckle up with the episode called How to Cure What Ails You.

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58.875 - 59.816 Cynthia Fu

Okay.

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Alright. Okay.

62.18 - 64.423 Lulu Miller

Alright. You're listening to Radiolab.

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Radiolab.

65.684 - 66.506 Lulu Miller

From WNYC. WNYC.

74.158 - 79.721 Robert Sapolsky

Hello, I'm Jad Abumrad. And I'm Robert Krulwich. This is Radiolab. This hour we're talking about diagnosis.

Chapter 2: How has brain imaging changed the diagnosis of depression?

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The amygdala sees the emotion on the faces at that moment.

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359.871 - 363.733 Cynthia Fu

And the machine... It's like tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. And there were hundreds of pictures.

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Tenth of a second to tenth of a second to tenth of a second.

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366.114 - 366.574 Cynthia Fu

That's right.

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Did you see a difference between the people who were depressed and the people who were normal?

373.018 - 373.278 Cynthia Fu

Yes.

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Was it a significant difference or a just barely difference?

377.58 - 379.661 Cynthia Fu

As a group, it was a significant difference.

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And now she takes the big step.

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