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Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show

Transition: Caleb Williams-DJ Moore relationship has had ups, downs

19 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What were the ups and downs of the Caleb Williams-DJ Moore relationship?

1.718 - 4.581 Marshall Harris

Jalen, just your reaction to that game?

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5.241 - 27.403 Leila Rahimi

It's a valuable question, huh? We've trained our media people too well. At this point, they're producing their own segments and critiquing other reporters. Thanks to Jalen Johnson. Thanks to Mark Rohde for going inside the locker room. Thanks to Dan Weterer for doing the same. Thanks to Marshall Harris for hanging out with our show today and standing next to me.

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27.983 - 37.134 Laurence Holmes

Yeah, it was fun. I... It was also kind of like a sigh of, yeah, they did that. We did that.

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37.475 - 41.501 Leila Rahimi

Indeed. Thanks to Anthony Huron for joining us for two segments. Thanks to Kaylin Kaler.

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Chapter 2: How did the Bears perform in their recent game?

41.601 - 65.577 Leila Rahimi

Check out her TikTok with Puna Ford talking about why he decided to put cayenne pepper in his socks. Thanks to Ray Diaz, Tyler Buterbaugh. Was it Clint Klaus helping us out with the audio today? Thanks to Clint as well. Of course, Connor O'Donnell, Jacob Stutz, and Max Curtis. And now we bring in our friends, Spiegel and Holmes, and Matt Trudeform brought in the setback sweetener.

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66.063 - 70.047 Matt Spiegel

I think I've got to take some culpability, though, here. What do you think, Lawrence?

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70.388 - 74.953 Mark Grote

I was a little surprised when you made this admission in our pre-show meeting.

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75.073 - 99.861 Matt Spiegel

So I did bring in some setback sweetener. I have three remaining cupcakes that Mariano's created in Bears colors. I purchased them before the game yesterday for a gathering. But as I purchased them, I thought, well, I guess if there are some leftovers, this would make a good setback sweetener. No! So you rolled this into existence?

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Chapter 3: What insights did the guests share about the team's locker room dynamics?

99.941 - 103.807 Marshall Harris

Did you mush the cupcakes? Take care, guys. Have a great day.

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104.908 - 115.763 Matt Spiegel

Am I bringing my notorious and special powers of optimism? Have I destroyed those with the purchasing of the setback sweetener? That's awful.

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115.928 - 118.972 Marshall Harris

I don't watch your setbacks, Sweden. I was very happy with the Giordano's.

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118.992 - 131.507 Matt Spiegel

I feel bad. I feel bad about the cupcakes. The pre-buy of the Sweden before the game? If it had all been eaten, I wouldn't have brought it in, but it wasn't, so I should bring it in. But then I'm like, I kind of knew that. It's on me.

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132.368 - 135.412 Laurence Holmes

Lawrence, what were your thoughts when he told you this story?

Chapter 4: What does the term 'setback sweetener' refer to in this context?

136.013 - 144.383 Mark Grote

I was surprised because Speaks has been the most enthusiastic of us all. Not enthusiastic. Right.

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144.363 - 149.848 Laurence Holmes

Whoa. Right. Whoa. His enthusiasm knows no bounds.

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150.129 - 155.634 Matt Spiegel

That's a beautiful callback that brings my sometimes delusional optimism right to the floor.

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155.734 - 174.353 Mark Grote

No, he's been the guy kind of leading the charge on the optimism and feeling it. And look, you've been rewarded for that. So for you to be the guy, I would have felt better had you walked in here and been like, you know what, guys? I bought the chicken on Sunday.

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174.333 - 176.596 Matt Spiegel

Right, right. You know what I mean? That should have been the move.

Chapter 5: How did the Bears' coaching decisions impact the game outcome?

176.856 - 182.582 Matt Spiegel

I should have said to myself as I neared the cupcakes, let me make a detour to the chicken aisle. Right, Grody?

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183.083 - 194.716 Marshall Harris

Yeah. That would have been great. I would have appreciated you bringing the chicken in today and just being in total denial. The Bears won that game. I don't care what anybody says. What a game. You saw that? Yeah, yeah. Just being in denial the whole time.

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194.736 - 197.539 Matt Spiegel

I've been eating chicken since the final whistle.

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197.519 - 206.192 Mark Grote

I can just see you making it up in your mind. I was so happy that Ben went for two, and then they got it, and now they're off to play Seattle.

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206.213 - 215.006 Marshall Harris

Is there any of us here who didn't think we'd be eating chicken after the 14-yard touchdown pass to Cole Komet with 18 seconds left?

Chapter 6: What are the implications of DJ Moore's potential departure from the Bears?

215.247 - 216.408 Marshall Harris

I thought we'd be eating chicken.

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216.949 - 230.271 Leila Rahimi

Can I confess? Sure. When they were tied at the half, I was like, oh, let's go. Oh, totally. Really was the way the defense played. I mean, I was like, oh, they got this. They got this easy.

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230.431 - 254.051 Matt Spiegel

When they were down 17-10, it took some work to check in with yourself and see how do you still feel. And then they had that great drive that ends with Ben running into a nine-man box on third and goal. And then the fourth and goal where it's broken up. But yeah, then they forced the punt. As soon as they had the ball down seven driving, I thought they were going to win.

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254.071 - 255.494 Matt Spiegel

I absolutely thought they were going to win.

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255.514 - 257.918 Laurence Holmes

As soon as McVay gave up on third down.

Chapter 7: How did the performance of Caleb Williams affect the team's strategy?

257.898 - 263.044 Laurence Holmes

and decide not to pass, but to hand it off, even though the two-minute warning is coming, so it didn't matter.

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263.064 - 263.925 Unknown

I couldn't believe that.

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263.945 - 274.397 Laurence Holmes

I was like, wait, I had to actually stop myself. I was like, I am reading this correctly, right? What is transpiring right now as he was handing it off. I was like, you're just going to give Caleb Williams the ball back?

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274.457 - 285.53 Matt Spiegel

Yeah, Lawrence, you said it in the thread. You just ran three plays without involving Matthew Stafford and Puka Nakua, and he gave the ball to Caleb Williams. And Stafford knew it.

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285.99 - 287.432 Marshall Harris

Old Matthew Stafford.

287.412 - 292.72 Matt Spiegel

Now, old Matthew Stafford, he didn't cotton to nothing.

292.74 - 294.763 Marshall Harris

Old Matthew Stafford.

295.124 - 300.972 Matt Spiegel

Yeah, but I absolutely thought they were going to win. Even on fourth and four, I'm like, Caleb's going to find a way. Didn't even get the co-drive involved.

Chapter 8: What are the emotional reactions from the hosts regarding the Bears' season?

301.153 - 306.24 Matt Spiegel

Then the kid is magic. And then in overtime, after they forced the punt and Caleb's got the ball.

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306.26 - 326.953 Mark Grote

You think it's money time. Get ready for the 12s. Here we go. Are we going to go to Seattle on our own dime? Whatever we got to do, let's go. We had brought that up, too. We brought that up like three weeks ago. We were like, hey, are we going to do a remote from a Bears bar in Seattle if the Bears get there?

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326.933 - 339.694 Laurence Holmes

On that last drive, too, because the way they were going down the field, they were like, we're not trying to do too much. We're going to take care of the football and just matriculate down the field on this tired, worn-down defense. I was like, yeah, they've got everything under control.

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339.935 - 346.286 Laurence Holmes

As soon as he dropped back and started like, I've got a pocket, I was like, this dude better be wide open to whoever you're throwing to.

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346.326 - 353.738 Matt Spiegel

Well, he could have been. There was wide open space where he could have been as well. Yeah. How many times have you watched that play?

353.838 - 356.882 Leila Rahimi

Yeah, the song says room to make her big mistakes after that.

356.962 - 359.845 Laurence Holmes

Wide open spaces. Right, Layla?

359.905 - 360.446 Marshall Harris

Yeah.

360.466 - 362.389 Mark Grote

See how I do that?

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