Transition with Spiegel & Holmes
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What did the hosts thank the guests and crew for at the start of the show?
I've got nothing to add there.
Never does when it comes to Kyler Gordon. Sh surprise, surprise. That's a reaction to Kyler Gordon, who could in theory be practicing as like Shamar Turner is today. So that's pretty cool. Um thank you to everybody for listening to Rahimi and Grody today. You guys mean a lot to us. We appreciate you. We appreciate the interaction. Thank you to our guests today on the show. General manager, or actually the president of baseball operations for the Chicago Cubs, Jed Hoyer, joined us today. Herb Howard gave us a hit from Hallis Hall today, talking bears. Mike Florio was on the program as well. Thank you to Ray Diaz and Tyler Buterbaugh for putting this wonderful show together today. Connor O'Donnell, Max Curtis, Jacob Stutz are our video producers and they make us look good.
The scoreschicago.com Editor is Cody Westerland. And we are now happy to be joined in the studio in this time of transition for everybody. The Spiegel and Holmes show featuring Lawrence Holmes and Matt Spiegel. What's going on, gentlemen? We enjoyed the Enjoyed
the interview with Jed Hoyer and there there's a lot in there to talk about. Like it I don't know how you guys felt about it, but it it kinda felt like he he poured cold water on Justin Steele and Edward Cabrera.
Yeah. Number one takeaway. Yep. Number one takeaway. And also was really cautious regarding Alec Alex Bregman. I don't think it's as automatic as people think it is.
I think Jed is the one being cautious on that and Craig is not.
What insights did Jed Hoyer share about the Cubs’ roster and recent games?
It's an interesting di dichotomy that's happening. And Alex is not being cautious. Like as soon as Alex has the swelling go down a little bit, he's gonna play.
But you know, I mentioned like what happens when you get a high end type fastball. There were a lot of issues of fastball command out of pitchers last night. And then what uh texter mentioned what happens when you're sliding into a base?
He's gonna have a crazy ass Agamemnon style mask or maybe that Dave Parker half hockey mask that he wore in nineteen seventy eight. That guy's gonna play.
I look at Agamemnon as the descriptor.
I'm glad that someone is being a little cautious with Alex Bregman. It's not Alex, it is not Craig. Because like this is a fairly serious thing that's happened to him. Like, not just from the injury standpoint, the point, the trauma of that, like and working through that. And maybe the the way that he works through it is by getting back in the cage and looking at pitches and all that stuff. It's just that like I I'm glad. that someone is like, well wait, do we really have to do any of this stuff? Or could we put some ice on his face and let him go home for a couple of days and then see how he feels?
A couple couple of days. Couple of days. Uh but yeah, you know, like he doesn't seem to be processing the trauma in some ways that other folks might and and to each their own. But I I don't know. I mean it's it's certainly fair point. It I I understand from their perspective, if they had Alex Bregman last night they win that game.
Probably.
They're one for eighteen with runners on base. Matt Shaw took four garbage at bats in that game. I
don't know like those should have been Michael Confortos.
But they w there was a moment where it was going to be Conforto versus the lefty, and then Craig announced Shaw, and so they went to the righty. So that's the choice he made, and it knocks Conforto out the rest of the way. But should Tyrone Taylor have taken it bats instead of Matt Shaw? Can he bunt better than Matt Shaw? Nobody can bunt. Nobody knows how to bunt.
Matt Matt Shaw in particular struggles with Bunt and his trash his approach to that. Like even in the cause didn't the at bats start to oh?
It started too oh. He showed Bunt twice and back up. That pitcher that was the moment. That pitcher was begging to blow the game. Whi whichever whichever Marlin that was.
I thought that's where the Cubs were gonna win the game. I thought that's where the Cubs were going to win the game.
That whole inning. Yeah, yeah. That whole inning was the best. That's when you walk them off.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What did the hosts thank the guests and crew for at the start of the show?
0:01–1:31
2
What insights did Jed Hoyer share about the Cubs’ roster and recent games?
1:31–4:01
3
How did the panel break down the Cubs‑White Sox game and key moments like the bunt and defensive play?
4:01–8:12
4
What scheduling options are being considered for the Cubs‑Red Sox series amid the weather forecast?
8:12–11:01
5
Which pitchers are under debate for the Cubs’ postseason roster and why?
11:01–14:14
6
How are the Cubs planning to use Clay Holmes, Shoda Imanaga and other arms in the bullpen?
14:14–16:28
7
What historical player milestones were discussed and why do they matter today?
16:28–17:57
8
What upcoming segments and guests are announced for the rest of the broadcast?
17:57–18:32
Speakers
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