Former Secret Service Agent: How Presidents Are Protected | Evy Poumpouras | FO563 Raj Shamani
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How are security layers around the President designed and what is the “shift” role?
You are responsible to be in a group to protect the most powerful person in the world. It's the president of United States. How do you design this?
You have circles of security around that person, layer upon layer. And the idea is each of these circles are supposed to stop or intercept a threat at some point. The people in the closest in the center of the circle, they call that shift. Shift is like you're literally the bodyguard. It's the last line of defense. It should never come to that. My name is Evie Pompeuris.
A former Secret Service special agent protected several US presidents during her career and later became an NBC law enforcement analyst, author, and expert in interrogation and reading people.
There's teams on the ground that are dressed like everybody else and they're just in the crowd. Also, like another thing that was a concern were ambushes. I'm driving and somebody puts an IED on the road, boom, right? What do I do? So you always want to stay in motion. You've got the vehicles, which are highly tactical vehicles, ballistic vehicles.
How do you do that on a foreign land? Imagine a US president has to go give a speech in India or China.
It's a gamble because you have to trust that other foreign country.
How the process goes.
If I'm going to India, which is a big country, let's He's going to Mumbai. I'm gonna send an agent and people out there probably a month in advance to work with the Mumbai police, with the military in India. I'm gonna work with them. United States we train very differently. So there's some countries where you're like nice country, but they're not capable of protecting. Look at any picture of any president of the United States going anywhere in the world, they are always in their cars. We fly the cars over.
If you would have gotten in the room with few people in the world, how would you have interrogated them to extract certain information out of them?
What is Evy’s career path from the NYPD to the Secret Service and how does the agency’s dual mission work?
One is Jeffrey Apstein.
So you're looking at someone very wealthy, knows everybody. I mean this guy knew presidents. You would need days with him. The first few days I would talk about anything but the case. Tell me about yourself, how'd you grow up? How you feeling, Jeffrey? Can I get you food? I just want this guy talking. Is this because I don't need the confession from Epstein because I actually have enough to convict him. But what I want from him, who he played with, who was on his island, how did he get the girls? What did he do? I wanna know how he ran the business.
Who else is involved.
Yes, I wanna know how big this thing goes. That's what I would wanna know.
This one's close to you. How would you interrogate him
Ha Osama bin Laden?
How do you even become a secret service agent? What's the most brutal part of the training?
I think the
You've been a spy. You've been somebody who has lied to people. How to become a good liar.
I remember once I pretended to be somebody who was being sex trafficked and I had to pretend to be from another country.
Tell me about the story.
Well
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So I my name is Evie Pompeurus. I started off in law enforcement uh in a career when I was very young. I actually started in the NYPD, which is New York City Police Department. Uh did very brief time there and then transitioned to the United States Secret Service as a special agent and criminal investigator. And that agency, which some people don't know, is what's called a dual mission. Agency, they work investigations. So you work criminal cases and you also work protection.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
How are security layers around the President designed and what is the “shift” role?
0:00–1:49
2
What is Evy’s career path from the NYPD to the Secret Service and how does the agency’s dual mission work?
1:49–7:29
3
What does the Secret Service training involve and how are candidates evaluated during the brutal exam process?
7:29–15:17
4
How does the Secret Service plan and execute protection missions on foreign soil, especially in countries like India and Russia?
15:17–1:04:02
5
Why does asking a polygraph question cause a strong reaction?
1:04:02–1:11:18
6
How can you detect lies by noticing tone and body cues?
1:11:18–1:24:02
7
What interrogation strategy would you use with a high‑profile criminal like Jeffrey Epstein?
1:24:02–1:42:27
8
How do you assess and prevent threats such as mass shooters or attacks on world leaders?
1:42:27–1:57:43
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