Kevin Vance interviews Karl "Gus" Gustavson, a retired Navy SEAL with 22 years of service. Gustavson candidly discusses military brotherhood, sacrifice, and the transition to civilian life. This conversation offers unique insights into long-term military service and its lasting impact, and is the first in a new series with Kevin Vance profiling individuals living inspiring lives dedicated to service. Subscribe to Kevin’s Substack to stay updated and follow Kevin on his ECHOES journey. Follow Kevin and Gus on Instagram— Kevin - @kevinlvance Gus - @kgus245 For episodes of Real Ones early and ad free and to get a first look at sneak peaks like "Echoes" join the Real Ones community on Patreon.

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