Dylan Mulvaney

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What journey did Dylan Mulvaney take to embrace her identity?

Monica Lewinsky 0:00
I still have things like that happen on occasion. I'll be uninvited to something.
Dylan Mulvaney 0:05
I never want to be in a room where I'm not wanted, though.
Monica Lewinsky 0:07
I think what is sad is that in order to survive, some of these things become normalized for us.
Dylan Mulvaney 0:16
And this is the life that we're, this is, you know, I was thinking back to that, you know, saying that I didn't know when people said my name, who they were talking about. And now I'm like, oh no, I'm Dylan fucking Mulvaney. That is so cool. You are Monica fucking Lewinsky.
Monica Lewinsky 0:44
Hi. Hey. I'm so excited you're here. It's happening. It's happening. Finally. I know people who have been listening to Reclaiming since the beginning, so like 50 plus episodes ago, will remember that when Alan Cumming was on, he was saying that you were the perfect guest for this show, which you are. And finally now we've been able to make it. I think he might have called you Wee Dylan Mulvaney. Oh, Wee Dylan. Wee Lassie. Wee. Wee Lassie, wee Dylan Mulvaney.
Dylan Mulvaney 1:14
I think if you had told me that like when I was like 10 years old watching Spy Kids, I wouldn't have believed you. And it's also so funny because I think everyone has a different version of Alan Cumming that they love in their heads. And so mine was very much Spy Kids. And then it was Romy and Michelle, which is like my addiction. And hopefully we're getting a second Romy and Michelle movie.
Monica Lewinsky 1:32
I mean, that's what it sounded like at his walk of fame star unveiling thing.
Dylan Mulvaney 1:37
But And that's where we finally got to meet. What a moment where he's up there on a stage giving a speech and I looked over and we made eye contact and we waved to each other. And I was like, oh, this is the perfect place to finally connect.
Monica Lewinsky 1:52
Yeah, yeah. Well, let me properly welcome you to Reclaiming Dylan.
Dylan Mulvaney 1:57
Thank you.
Monica Lewinsky 1:57
Yes, I remember that moment. Because we'd been like social media friends.
Dylan Mulvaney 2:02
Yes, for a while. And I've wanted to be on this for a long time.
Monica Lewinsky 2:05
I know. We've been in talks to try to make it happen and now feels like a really perfect time. It does in many ways. You are in a very exciting place. Exciting seeming to me. Yes. No. It's all good. You are about to take –
Dylan Mulvaney 2:21
Take on Broadway.
Monica Lewinsky 2:22
Take on Broadway, right? In the musical Six, you're going to play Anne Boleyn.
Dylan Mulvaney 2:26
A problematic woman who we love very much. We're in a good crowd of women ahead of their time. Off with her head. I even think what's so funny about, you know, over the last few years, I've been through controversy and all sorts of things on social media. But I love that we're having this conversation right now because it really feels... Like I've worked through a lot of that, and now I have a better perspective on sharing on some of that. And you're someone that I've looked up to for a really long time. So I think to get to share this with other people feels exciting to me too. And for all our audio listeners out there, I'm wearing sort of a red kind of giving Jackie O pantsuit or a little two-piece set.
Dylan Mulvaney 3:11
And I woke up this morning. I'm like, what am I going to wear today? to, you know, talk to Monica Lewinsky. And I was like, well, I really love red. This feels very like politics. And then I was like, oh my gosh, but are people going to think I'm conservative? I literally had the thought, I want to reclaim red as like a color that I can wear proudly and that I think looks really good with my skin tone. It does. Thank you. And then when I was like – I went to listen to an episode of the podcast while I was putting makeup on and it was – the show is called Reclaiming and I was like, well, there we go. I'm reclaiming the red and we're taking it for – do you wear red a lot anymore?
Monica Lewinsky 3:49
I do. What's funny is ever since I started putting highlights in my hair, I wear it a little less frequently. So when my hair was your color, red is like a perfect- With the contrast. Right, with a brunette is so great. Yes, Jackie O. Now the blue looks good on you. Thank you. It's funny because when we met at Alan's thing, I walked away and I had this, it was like the word that kept coming up for me was this old lady word of delightful.

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