Jamie Lynn Sigler

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Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky 1h 9m 2 speakers 5 chapters transcribed 2 months ago
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Jamie Lynn Sigler 0:00
Edie Falco, who played my mother on The Sperandos, she was one of the first people to read my book. And she wrote me this like long text after and she said, I hate to know the things that you've been through, but I can't help but think you were meant to because this is part of your purpose and your service in this world is your ability to sort of reclaim and accept and share is what people need to hear.
Monica Lewinsky 0:42
Well, Demi, I'm so happy to welcome you to Reclaiming. Thank you. I am so excited to be here and talk with you. Yes, absolutely. But before anything, I'm going to make this confession that is probably something I'm probably the only person in the world who could say that. And it's that I never watched The Sopranos. You're not the only one.
Jamie Lynn Sigler 1:01
Oh, really? Okay. And everyone that says it always prefaces it with that because they feel like they're not the only one. Listen, it's always there if you ever feel like watching it. I know.
Monica Lewinsky 1:09
And I would think, like, as I was preparing for today, I was thinking about, why didn't I watch it during the pandemic when I had nothing to do? But I just, I think because it came out in 99, right? And so I just didn't watch a lot of TV after 1998. Understandably so. Right. Self-protection, but also... When I didn't have a more structured life, I was so worried I'd become a couch potato. And so I just was really – I couldn't be disciplined about ice cream or cupcakes, but I was disciplined about TV.
Unknown 1:42
Listen, if you can be disciplined about something, that's a feat. I should be proud of that.
Monica Lewinsky 1:47
And so it's interesting to me because your new memoir, And So It Is, I was really drawn to the subtitle of A Memoir of Acceptance and Hope. Because acceptance for me has been, and I think it's such a big part of reclaiming, actually. Absolutely. Like you cannot, but you really can't move through all the steps until you've had acceptance. That's right. And I think it was really a lot of my progress during my dark decade really came about from integration and being able to integrate, like, okay, I couldn't leave Monica Lewinsky, the White House intern alone. In the past, like I had to find a way to not be ashamed and bring her with me, all the things. And so, you know, you can't integrate until you've accepted.
Jamie Lynn Sigler 2:43
That's so beautiful. And yes, you know, it's... Not to jump too far ahead, but friends of mine or people that I've met that have read the book have said, you've changed so much. Or even friends that know me now that didn't know me then. Like, wow, you were so different then than who you are now. And I'm like, no, she's still a part of me. I have not abandoned her. It's just we've grown together. And to think about integrating into acceptance, I love that. It makes so much sense.
Monica Lewinsky 3:13
Well, I feel like it's not something we're taught. hot. I don't even know that my therapist had used the word integrate. I think it came as a result of there being so much work that had to be the self-acceptance, right? Just the sort of, okay, it's hard enough out there. How do I make it not so hard in here? That's That's right.
Jamie Lynn Sigler 3:38
Because that's what you're living with no matter where you go, no matter how you try to escape. Yes. And it's about embracing and accepting and acknowledging, not bypassing, but really allowing, allowing for all of it and giving space and having grace, forgiveness. I'm not telling you anything you don't know.
Monica Lewinsky 3:59
No, but it's always – I don't know if you've had this experience, especially as you've been on book tour, you know, that – Even if you know something, the sort of the reflection of the story from someone else of like, oh, someone else went through the same sort of layers of things that I went through, even though the details are different. Yes.
Jamie Lynn Sigler 4:21
Well, I think there's such a universalness in our vulnerability and our ability to just share our truth.
Unknown 4:28
Mm-hmm.
Jamie Lynn Sigler 4:28
And like you said, I've had so many people tell me, I don't have MS. I wasn't on a TV show. I didn't have an eating disorder. I didn't go through a divorce. But in those moments of what felt like isolated pain, I know that moment.

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