Architectures and Microservices with Darren Broemmer - RUBY 657
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Hey, everybody, and welcome to another episode of the Ruby Rogues podcast. This week on our panel, we have Dave Kimura. Hey, everyone. I'm Charles Maxwood from devchat.tv. Dave, it's nice to do a podcast with you again. It's been a while, hasn't it? I know. I keep winding up, showing up when you can't make it, and then you show up when I can't make it. Yeah. Of course, now we both show up, and Luke and John can't make it, so... One of these days. We also have a special guest, and that's Darren Bromer. Did I say that right, Darren?
Yeah, Darren Bramer, yep. Bramer, ah. And O-E, it's a German, German A sound. Ah, nice.
So do you want to introduce yourself, let people know who you are, why you're important and famous and all that cool stuff?
absolutely yeah well first of all thanks a lot for having me on here it's great to talk with you guys so i've been engineer engineer my whole life i will admit that i discovered ruby a little bit later in my career i was a java guy for quite a while and going all the way back to 2002 i'm going to date myself here i wrote a book on java j2ee actually so there you go that there's a dated uh bit of technology a little bit And so I've done all types of engineering-managed teams. I decided I wanted to go back, get hands-on keyboard after doing that. Went to Amazon Web Services. Had a great time working there. Learned a whole lot. Had a lot of fun. Met a lot of great people. And then wanted to get more into kind of combine the two things I really, really enjoy. So the technology, obviously, but also communications.
And so now I kind of went and switched gears. I'm now the developer evangelist for... Engine Yard and we have platform as a service tools, but I get to do my two favorite things, which are play with technology and share that with people, write about it and talk about it.
Awesome. And yeah, we ran across this article from you talking about architecture and microservices and stuff, which is funny because I think on JavaScript Jabber, we did an episode on micro front ends about three weeks ago. We recorded it anyway. We're a little more ahead on that, so it's probably going to come out in a few weeks. But it's just interesting because people are talking about this and how to break up application logic and stuff like that. And of course, in Rails, we all talk about the beautiful monolith and you know, how that all kind of comes together to put it all in one app. And so yeah, I'm kind of interested because I don't know that I necessarily got the breakdown on where you come down on this.
And I remember early in my career, like SOA, service oriented architecture was a big thing. And I think I gave a whole bunch of talks and gave a whole bunch of bad advice, because it was the cool thing to do. And I was really in love with the idea. But you know, been built a few apps and took it way too far. And it was like, you know, a lot of this stuff really does belong in its own app. And then some of this stuff, it started, okay, some of this stuff belongs in workers and some of this stuff actually, you know, may belong in its own service, you know, microservice. And so, you know, I kind of have gone back and forth as to how much you want to peel off into different parts and, And so I'm kind of curious where you come down as far as, okay, what do I break off into microservices? What part do I keep in the monolith? What part do I, you know, and how do I break that up? And then I also saw some stuff about containerization. So we can, I guess, dive into that next. But yeah, how do microservices kind of fit into Ruby these days?
Yeah, so I think when you're looking at decomposing your application and doing design, you know, and really there's only one reason that we really do software design, right? We do it because we're probably going to need to change our application tomorrow, whether that be to fix some bugs or to add some new features that people want. We can't, you know, add patterns and layers of indirection everywhere. So we need to make choices. I say that because every time you add a layer of indirection, it's not free. There's a cost to it, right? We can't optimize to be able to change every aspect of the application. You know, for example, I've been on a number of projects over my career.
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