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Events.com Should Have Been Hopin, Can They Acquire Their Way Back To Top?
11 Mar 2021
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
So, combined entities were, for 2019, about $16.8 billion. And then, if you look at 2020, pre-COVID, both contracted and otherwise recurring revenues should have been in the $25 million range.
Chapter 2: What challenges did the event industry face during COVID-19?
But obviously, COVID was just a crushing blow to the event industry. There's a $3 billion drop out of the event management software business.
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Chapter 3: How did Events.com evolve from its inception?
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My guest today is Mitch Thrower. He's co-founder and CEO of events.com. Also co-founder of active.com and former chairman and owner of triathlete magazine. He was a tech producer, chairman of Loyola foundation and co-founder of active.com, the active network. Prior to that, he was co-founder and CEO of Active Europe.
Active went public before selling to Vista for $1.05 billion and then eventually sold several divisions like Global Payments for $1.2 billion.
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Chapter 4: What strategies did Events.com use for growth post-COVID?
He also is a 22X Ironman triathlete. Mitch, I'm going to try and keep up here. Are you ready to take us to the top? I'm ready. I'm just older. Fair enough. Look, the event space has seen some change over the past 12 to 24 months. Let's go pre-COVID for a second. What was events.com pre-COVID? Software or something else?
Chapter 5: What role do acquisitions play in Events.com's strategy?
Yeah, software and services. Primarily software for event organizers to make more money and save time by bringing the disparate point systems that event organizers are faced with today onto one platform. And help me understand the backstory there. When did you launch that business? So interestingly enough, we launched an incubator where we had several different projects going on.
One of your philosophies, don't work on one thing, right? Figure out which one's going to work. You've read the book, huh? Yeah. Well, actually, I think it was an interview, so I confess I haven't yet read the book. But I will. And I think ultimately, we dabbled in the civic space. We bought a company called Civico, which we sold to Granicus. We then sold to Vista.
Then we looked at the connected car, and then we were really looking at getting back into the event industry. This sort of emerged in that process. We started Code in the end of 2015-2016 as one of the projects in the incubator. It really became kind of a core focus. to really pour our code and launch and build an enterprise platform for events really around 17, 18. Okay.
And so, well, just to be clear. So what was like, I mean, I know you did around like a series B, like for a million and 2.3 million back in like 2012 timeframe, what was going on back then?
Yeah. So those are the acquisitions. So that was when we acquired a company in the civic space. That was all, even though the entity is events.com, that was the kind of in and out of the incubator.
I see. I see. Okay. Got it.
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Chapter 6: How does Events.com integrate with other video tech platforms?
So when you say this was structured as an incubator, was this just you financing this sort of incubation with your own personal capital or was it something else?
Yeah, it was myself, a gentleman named Steven Partridge and some people that we'd worked with before taking a look at different ventures that could catch fire and really have an enormous opportunity to scale, build something big, and the events.com domain name is one that we acquired from CBS, believe it or not. It was originally owned by Bill Gross, not PIMCO Bill Gross, but Idealab Bill Gross.
Oh, wow. What year was that? Oh, goodness. I don't know the exact year, but that I can, I can find out. It probably was 13, 14.
So you were sitting on the, in the venture studio model, you've got the domain, you were sitting on it. Then you started writing code for events.com in 2015. Correct. I see. Okay. So, so this, I mean, is, is that what it was? It was basically a venture studio model. You guys were hunting for the next big thing to build. We didn't call it at that point, but yes, that was exactly it.
That's exactly it. It's really what, which of these will catch fire and where can we really
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Chapter 7: What lessons were learned from the pandemic's impact on events?
develop a working thesis that will be scalable. Okay.
So what signals were you seeing in 2015 that gave you the confidence to say, you know what, let's go all in on events.com?
You know, the event industry has transformed not just in the last year, but prior to that, as technologies emerged for the event industry, event organizers were faced. You know, if there was like the Nathan Festival, you would be using up to 15 different platforms. You'd have one for ticketing,
one for marketing, one for analytics, and you've got some person in the corner with a spreadsheet trying to sell sponsorship, but they get recruited away because they're good with people. All of these different things that were happening was pulling value away from event organizers.
We operate primarily in the mid-tier, although we have a wonderful festival with 56,000 attendees and the Rise Festival. We have big clients, but our focus is really the mid-markets.
And so we looked at these event organizers and said, there's just a better way, an absolutely better way for them to get access to something that helps them make more money and save time because it's just a nightmare. None of the systems they were using were talking to each other.
So the app that they hired someone to build for check-in didn't match with their registration app, which didn't match with their analytics app, which they had trouble doing their email marketing to. So kind of bringing that centralized hub together, that was the problem that emerged. That was kind of the pain point that we really wanted to address.
And it's actually, it's gotten worse with more event-related businesses popping up all the time, even with the virtual, you know, and the hybrid things that we're seeing coming out now. So I think we're in a really good space to, you know, focus on, you know, a single platform for events to manage what they're dealing with.
So what were you able to grow to that first 12 months? 2015 total revenue came out to what?
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Chapter 8: How does Events.com cater to mid-market event organizers?
Do you remember?
Okay, let me see. 2015 total revenue, and I'll share two contextually. The 2015 total revenue is going to be blurred because we've also just gone out and done some acquisitions. Some companies that have been around for 10 years plus, some companies for four years plus.
So when I talk in numbers, I just want to contextualize that there's kind of the pre-acquisition and then there's the companies and they're trailing historical actuals. Ignore the trailing stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, in the first 12, we were probably in the maybe million and a half range, somewhere in there, a million four. The great thing is we were in
I would call it a beta, although we didn't necessarily call it a beta. But when you're building a platform for events where they're trusting you with their capital, I mean, many event organizers log in more to our systems than they do their online banks because they're watching their transactions, they're communicating with their customers, they're utilizing it for a part of their CRM.
And when that happens, you really want to have a great place for people to live. So our scale, our buttons on scale and organic growth and marketing, we have not yet really pushed those because we wanted to get to where we were about a year ago when we were ready to really push it out to market. And then, of course, the pandemic happened.
And so we said, let's go do some acquisitions to scale during a pandemic. But that's what we started on and taking one or two of the systems that people were using, bringing it onto one and then adding fourth and fifth and sixth and 12, however many different features that they're using elsewhere under one platform.
And so with that 1.5 million in sort of year one history, right? Just again, ignoring the acquisitions you've done now and they're trailing revenue. You also went out, I think, raised a round of capital that year. How much did you raise in 2015?
Correct. So I think collectively, and we did it as a rolling raise. So I'm going to let you know, we've raised over $50 million and we're about to announce a round that takes us over $70 million. And that includes the acquisitions
Um, uh, one of which we did in 19 and didn't announce one of which actually the other three, which we're about to announce, I would say within the next two or three quarters. Um, and so that's, that's an exciting time, but it's, uh, it's about 70 million cumulatively.
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