SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
He Sold 0.7% For $50k With $100k ARR ($7m Valuation). Mistake?
21 Mar 2021
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
The last month was one of the best months for us and we just hit it 10K.
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Hello everyone, my guest today is Andras Tassi. He is a husband and father of twin boys, entrepreneurial business owner for 23 years, big follower of God, 21 years of business networking, franchise social media specialist, motivation, education, inspiration, you name it, now building SMD.com. Andras, you ready to take us to the top? I am, yes. Okay, what is SMD? Is it SaaS or an agency?
It's actually a SaaS Plus company, so it came from an agency. The original company was an agency, a digital marketing agency, mainly focusing on paid adverts. And the story started with a really interesting step for us. Basically, when me and my co-founder, it's two business owners in the business, me and my best friend, we started as a house and like a side project, this company.
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Chapter 2: What is SMD and how did it evolve from an agency?
So I got my business partner, best friend. That's that's known Bert. He's acting as a CTO at the moment in the company, an amazing, talented guy. And then we got four full time employees in the business, one part time employee in the business. And on contract, we got our development team and couple of support team. That's nine people in total.
How many engineers total?
That's three engineers and two support for the engineers, project management.
Any marketing or sales reps?
Well, that's us. Got it. So two of you guys. We do have, yes.
We don't have sales. I'm the one running the sales in the business at the moment. I see. So where are you finding these customers? You have 98 of them. Where did you find them?
So the first customers, we actually did a trial. It was the beta phase of the software, what we did. And then instead of... There is a model, you know, the lifetime model. And instead of just running a really cheap lifetime model, we decided that we will try out our pricing structure and the value of the software. So we built a $300 package, what is a lifetime offer, but for $300.
And we sold that to our networking. So we got quite a few connections in our... Obviously, we got some clients from the past. And we got our networking clients as well. And we use social media to do that. The new customers who we will be acquiring is all organic social media.
But just to be clear, the 98 customers paying today, those are ones actually paying per month, not ones that paid one time for lifetime access.
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Chapter 3: What was the significance of the million-pound contract?
And we just decided that we will go something. But I never really heard on your channels. Crowdfunding. So there is a platform called Cedars. And we decided that we'll go with Cedars. Can you spell it? Cedars.com. S-E-E-D-R-S dot com.
So you raised money there then? No, we didn't. Sorry, you raised $40,000 there at a $7 million valuation?
Yes, but it was not on Cedars. So what happened, let me just quickly run through. So what happened, we went for Cedars, we built it together, the project, they approved our application, they approved the valuation, and then how it works, you start to collect like investors behind the project. You try to get in your own investors to start the project. And we did that.
So we built a quite big follower base and people who want to invest into the business. And then before we launched the actual campaign, COVID hit. And we just stopped the campaign. And we got a couple of really good investors who then decided to stay with us. And that's what happened.
But how were you able to convince him to give you money at a $7 million valuation? I mean, that's nothing.
Well, we really built a really nice business plan, and then it was a proof of concept that we got franchises, we got the clients already in talk, and we actually managed to achieve it.
I mean, if they put in 50 grand at a $7 million valuation, they're buying less than 1% of the company. they're betting on the fact that you're able to grow this thing to sell for something for more than $7 million. Otherwise, they never make any money.
That's correct.
So, I mean, if you got an offer right now to sell the whole business for $4 million, all cash up front, would you sell?
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Chapter 4: How did the SaaS model come into play for the business?
I just think you actually really hurt yourself by having such a high valuation so early.
Well, I think we don't really want to raise at the moment. So we will grow the business and we will see how it goes.
Well, I don't think you'd be able to raise right now because you'd have to convince someone else that you're worth more than $7 million, which I think would be a really tough sale at $180,000 in ARR. What do you think you'll grow this year?
We will definitely double the revenue for last year, but I think it will be probably about half a million.
So you think you're going to go from $10,000 a month right now to about $50,000 a month by the end of the year?
Yes, definitely. I think we will hit $20,000 by end of next month or this month, sorry, March.
And where is all that? I mean, you're doubling month over month is what you're telling me. Where is all that growth coming from?
Well, we've got quite a few prospects now at the moment. We're part of a big franchise organization called the QFA, and we've got a lot of clients from that. And we've got a really nice model, and they're loving it. So I think what's generating the growth now and what actually we achieved is that the selling system will be now built for franchises. So franchise companies...
are using our tool, our software, but also using our services. And what we do now is franchises are agreeing with us, and this is proven now, and we've got a few clients doing this. They're actually using our service to grow and get onboarding franchisees and then be in building our product inside the franchisee offer. So therefore, we gain a new contract from everything.
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