Are Collingwood Better Without Darcy Moore? (21.07.26)
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Breakfast with Gary and Tim. The IMA trade-off. Questions without notice for IMA. Protecting tradies and builders for over 35 years. Call 13IMA to get covered today.
Time for questions of that artist. If you've got one, fire it in. 0-4-3-3-98-11-16. Should Jake or Rick Lever, should he go coaching?
Should he go into coaching? Yeah, sure. Well, wait till you hear this. Tell Jake, this just came through from Steve, thanks for coaching our under-8 team at the Redbacks last Tuesday. They got smacked on the weekend. Maybe he needs to have a rethink about that.
I liked it. I wonder where that was going. I've got one for you. Collingwood a better side without... Their captain, Darcy Moore. This was Matthew Lloyd on Footy Classified last night.
I just wonder whether Collingwood have become a better team without this man Darcy Moore in the team. And the reason why I say this is the accountability piece is one that I just feel that, remember he was so loose and playing so far off his man that he hurt Collingwood. When he marked it looked good but he was being hurt and the foot skills often hurt him as well. So I just think that he either has to come and change his ways and fall into line how Collingwood now play where Billy Frampton's been sensational and Maynard and young punctures come into the team and Houston and Dacos and the way they play or they look and say okay you might need to find a new home or he has to really change the way he plays their game.
Wow. There's a lot in that. That is strong. Now, how on earth could Collingwood be a better club without, a better side without Darcy Moore? Maybe Lloydy's got a bit of a thing with the way modern day teams defend because he's hung up on Buku Karmus and the Dogs, taking up proactive positions. Isn't that the way Collingwood defend?
Yeah, they did. They did. And I think there were times where he looked like he got lost or he misdiagnosed what was happening and didn't pick up even that type of thing. But I don't think with the names there rolled off by Lloydy, I don't think they would be a better back six. I'm sure that if he was told that he had to play a different style or a different brand of football, Darcy Moore, I'm sure that he would be able to deliver offensively. on that from his coach. I think, you know, certain players are given a license to come off their man. Sometimes they misjudge how quickly they come off or whatever, all the pressure.
What sparked the Darcy Moore debate on Breakfast with Gary and Tim?
I think the other thing that probably, you know, helps, well, it does, it helps every defender and that is the pressure upfield. And if it's not there and the ball is coming through freely through the midfield, it's like, it's almost impossible for defenders to be- A lot of defenders look stupid in modern day football. Having said that, some coaches' philosophy is to play zone. That's how they're coached. And Collingwood do it better than just about everyone. They know exactly what sort of a leg rope they can give certain players, how much distance they can make up quickly. be able to outnumber, that type of thing. But I do not think that Collingwood right now would be a better side because Darcy Moore's not there.
What did Matthew Lloyd say about Darcy Moore’s defensive impact on Collingwood?
I do think that their coach has been really smart, like really, really smart, and being able to get the best out of this group of players. And there would have been modifications to their game plan as the season's rolled on. But for me, I can't think that they'd be a better team. What about you? Do you think they're a better team than them or not?
No, they're a better team with him. I 100% would say that. But I agree with you. He's one of the best coaches in it, I think, Craig McRae. Matt, this is inspired by him off the text. Just one more on Collingwood. Matt's asking you this, Wisp, and me. If Nick Dacos continues this form for the remainder of the season and somehow doesn't win the Brownlow, could that be the final straw on umpires voting for the Brownlow? Does he have to win it this year?
Well, no, he doesn't have to win it this year, but I think he's going to win it this year if he plays the next – how many games have we got left?
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–2:21
2
What sparked the Darcy Moore debate on Breakfast with Gary and Tim?
2:21–2:59
3
What did Matthew Lloyd say about Darcy Moore’s defensive impact on Collingwood?
2:59–4:45
4
How do hosts Tim and Sam react to Lloydy’s claim that Collingwood are better without Moore?
4:45–5:21
5
What tactical reasons are given for Darcy Moore’s perceived struggles in modern defensive systems?
5:21–8:05
6
Why do the presenters credit Collingwood’s coach and game plan despite Moore’s absence?
8:05–8:58
Speakers
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