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How can 2 people see the same scenario differently? Andrew Russell re: Butters / Foot (15.04.26)
14 Apr 2026
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Chapter 1: What is the significance of the Butters vs Foot situation?
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He's in the studio, Andrew Russell. It's great to have him. Someone says, have you ever been in a Zoom meeting, Gary? Did it stop you from making a proper decision? No, it didn't. But I didn't have to handle 15 other cars on the road and stop lights and listen to the radio. No. Zoom meeting, you probably get away with that person. Driving your car, I wouldn't have thought so. G'day, Andrew.
Thank you.
Gaz. Tim. Jack. How are you today?
There's lots going on. Yeah, geez, isn't footy an amazing beast? What pops up in football every week.
I know, and you're going to get back on the diet, which blew up last week, and we didn't give you perhaps enough time, as much time as we would have liked. But I know you've got some thoughts on this, because one of the discussion points is how can two people be so adamant that they can be 100% I said this, the other person says 100% I said this. They're third party in this.
I think Ollie Wines also said 100% I heard this. How can they all be true?
Well, it's pretty predictable human behavior and we all deal with it every day in our life around in conflict with at work, with our partners. Probably the first thing is let's go to a bit of the science and research behind this. So when we say we're 100%. Correct. We're probably 70 or 80% correct. That's what the science says. So when you say, I am Adam, I'm 100%, we're not a lot of the time.
Science tells us we're not. Science tells us that, which is fascinating, isn't it? So we as human beings are prediction machines, all right? So we take information from the environment, whatever information that is, and then we build a story, all right? And so there's probably four things, all right, when we look at cognitive research and neuroscience around this. So eyewitness research,
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Chapter 2: How do personal experiences influence our perception of events?
Then you've got a high stress environment. So under acute stress, the part of our brain that makes decisions, the prefrontal cortex, basically it's turned down or doesn't work very well. So that means we go into fight or flight mode. And when we're in fight or flight mode, we don't make good decisions. We haven't got good attention to detail. All right. During that period.
And then after something happens, after we had that big blow up, you know, you know, there's a whole lot of different information. We basically reconstruct that memory. All right. And then we double down. And so the reflection, the conversation with teammates, the umpires talk to each other, then the media. jump in and give their perspective. And that all gets woven into consolidate a story.
And often we go into protection mode where we double down. All right. And that's all to do with neuroplasticity. Our brain says, this is the way, this is what it was for me. Then those neurons in our brain fire more. And then that says, yep, that's how it is. And it locks it in and then we're done. And we do not change from that perspective.
I think... At some stage, you would have turned to Ollie Wines, I'm sure, and said, did I say that? Am I hearing this right? And I'm sure then Ollie would have thought, And so what you're saying, reaffirm. I was right, you know, I said this.
Chapter 3: What does science say about human memory and decision-making?
And then Ollie will say, yeah, that's exactly what I thought I heard.
And it works both ways, though, too, doesn't it?
Yeah, no, of course it does, yeah.
So the umpires are thinking exactly the same thing, that, okay, I'm going to double down. That's what I heard. I'm not going to retract any part of that because I'm 100% certain that that's exactly what he said to me at that time. They both believe that they are correct.
All right, well, we'll take a break on that. So it does make some sense that it is a fascinating case. On the other side, we'll reopen the diet debate, diet, health, nutrition that we talked about last week with Andrew Russell.
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