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"I just catch myself thinking how would Neale deal with this – I often ask myself that" (26.05.26)
25 May 2026
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Chapter 1: What story does Garry share about becoming a grandfather?
I want to tell you a story. I like telling stories. I'm a new grandfather with my grandson Cooper. I can't protect Cooper forever. As much as I love him, my wish for him is for him to understand a few things.
Chapter 2: What life lessons does Garry wish to impart to his grandson Cooper?
Life's good, but life doesn't promise to be fair. I'd like to tell Cooper, look mate, there'll be good times, but there'll be hard times. There'll be mundane times. Life can be tough. And my wish for Cooper is that he can conduct himself in the face of hardship. Life is difficult. Life is tough.
And I wish for Cooper, like I wish for you people, and you'll wish for people you love, can conduct yourself in the right manner when things get tough. Because in life, If not if, it would be tough. It's just when and how often. It's too late for me. The disease I've got will kill me. I apologise for the way I talk, but it's part of the disease.
It's a beast of a disease because there's no treatment and there's no cure. It doesn't kill you quick, it kills you slowly. It kills you out by slowly paralysing you. It'll get to a stage where I can't swallow, I can't speak, and I can't breathe. In the football context, it's a tank.
Chapter 3: How does Garry reflect on the challenges of life?
Okay, lost a few games, you're not going to die. But you don't lie down. It might get me, but I'm a fighter. Live with hope. Have a strong vision where you're going. My vision, close off the world without MND. I'll get there. I might be six foot under, but we'll get there.
Good morning, everyone. Welcome. It is the 26th day of May. It's a Tuesday. On the McCafe menu, try McCafe's drinks range. We are going to pay tribute to one of Australia's greats and who's lived an extraordinary life and extraordinary 13 years. We wake up this morning for the first time without Neil Danaher. in our world, but he'll never leave us.
We're dedicating the majority of our show to Nilo. You're going to hear from Terry Danaher, David Neitz, Paul Hopgood, Cameron Schwab, Sam Edmund will be with us for the news. Adam Kingsley will join us as well. But we normally jump out of the blocks at six with a bit of fun and a bit of lighthearted stuff. Nilo would still like us to have a laugh, but you can join us now anytime.
04-339-1116, 1300-736-736, and share your memories of a great man. Welcome to you, Tim. Morning, Gary. Oh, God, that got me. It got you, didn't it? It got me. It got me. Yeah. It is... Anyway, this is the best thing. I know how close you were to Nilo, and I was... He was an important part of my life, but not to the extent that he was with you.
But we've all been touched by him over the past 13 years. And today, as we did last night, and I'm sure all the shows did, it's time to just take a deep breath, remember, and pay some heed to the words that you just heard, that life's tough, doesn't give you anything, be positive. And get on with it. So let's do that.
How are you feeling? I was going okay. I just listened to that. I was just... Before we came on, I was just thinking about, you know, like there's almost – to actually encapsulate what he became and what he has meant to – I don't think it's too big a statement to say what he meant to the nation. Like because the nation got to see this person, whether you're associated with AFL football –
or you weren't over time because of how many years the big freeze existed and how many times MND was mentioned, and he was always mentioned around that. The whole nation did become – I don't know that they had – people maybe in different parts of Australia didn't have the intimate understanding of him as a man. And, like, he was just – He was an extraordinary human being.
Like, he really was. Like, he was so special. And I remember I was at the MCG one day doing something. And sorry.
Please. We are all feeling this this morning. And we need to talk about it. So don't you ever apologize. for being emotional because he was a great man. We'll get to our stories.
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Chapter 4: What personal insights does Garry share about his illness?
And he said, he's such a gift. This professor specialized in MND. And I said, what do you mean by that? And he said, well- No one's ever lived long enough. He said, we've never been able to put a face to MND in this country because no one's ever lived long enough.
And people get diagnosed, and he said, a lady came to me this year, in January of this year, and she had this tingling feeling in her arm, and she was dead in June. And he's had this form of MND that's been sort of like a slow – form of MND, which... He slowed it. His will slowed it. I wouldn't say that that wasn't the case either. And he just became...
the face of MND and people learned about MND. And, you know, the other thing that I think really touched people is that he was so authentic. Like he was a genuine person. Like we can all see through bullshit in our lives. We get fed so much now, you know, people trying to spin things and do things. And he was just so direct and honest.
And even, you know, when we heard him talk about, you know, like, his message to his, his grandson Cooper and about, you know, you know, life isn't fair. Like you get dealt handed cards and you've just got to do with it as best you possibly can. And that's what he did. Like he demonstrated that to us all time and time and time again. And as you said, with, with humor as well.
So the thing about this and, um, keep sending your messages through. They mean a lot to us. Um, both is that it was the one thing I always think about is, um, What would you do? They said this last night. What would you do? Like if you get a death sentence as only Neil could say, you know, I'm going to die and this thing's, there's no cure. So I'm going to die. What would you do then?
And the natural, well, for me anyway, I can't talk for everyone, the natural response is, well, I'm going to pull back from any public life and I'm going to spend every single second I can with my family. And if that's six months, 12 months, 18 months, whatever it is, and I don't owe the world, I owe my family.
And yet he went the other way and said, well, I can do that, but what I will do is be the face of this. And not only will I... well, I take it on, I'll go to the nth degree here, which has changed the outlook on this over 150, I've got 115 million, I don't know how much, maybe more, which gives people in the future the chance.
Like we just had Joy Arrow, this young 30-odd-year-old NRL man get, and I'm sure it's happening all around Australia, all around the world. And I think Neatsie said this. We're going to speak to Neatsie later, really close to Neil. He said that he's had a global influence. Yes. This is not just a Melbourne influence. Yes, that is true. And not even the country, which you just talked about.
It's a global influence that he's had.
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Chapter 5: How does Garry's perspective on hardship influence his outlook?
We were doing something. We were filming something. And he would just summon. Yeah, that's what he did. And he just had this inner strength that was inspiring. And you think about... We all have our own little ups and downs and problems like that. And often I just catch myself thinking, how would Neil deal with this? You can fight no matter what it is, no matter what you're confronted with.
How would Neil deal with this? I often ask myself that same thing, and it's like, I think if you think, like, if he's touched you and he's touched I, and I wonder how many people, like, have sort of been able to gather some strength as a result of the example that he's been able to set, which is outside the MND thing. It's just, you know, you can push through.
He was dealt some really difficult things. Like, he was a young bloke. He was – he could have been – Without putting too... I'm not trying to make this any glossier than what it could be, but he could have been one of the greatest players, certainly in the history of the Essendon Football Club, and one of the most revered figures. He was named captain at 21 years of age.
He just won the best and fairest.
Chapter 6: What tribute is paid to Neil Danaher during the episode?
Essendon were just on the rise under Kevin Sheedy. He had... He wasn't stripped of the captaincy, but it had to be handed on to someone else. It ended up being handed to his brother. And so his brother becomes the premiership captain, the most revered or one of the most revered figures in the history of the football club. And that could have been him.
It could easily have been him had he not been cut down so cruelly at a young age with knee injuries.
There's going to be a lot of suggestions. This one you shared this morning with me, which I love. Just bring a smile to your face. You're pumping up for a day, a day, May the 25th, to be forever known from this day forward as no bullshit day. In honor and memory of the great man. Now, he's going to be honored- In so many ways. In so many ways. But this, I kind of love that. Maybe we can do it.
And if anyone else wants to jump on on May the 25th next year, they can. Because that is exactly what he was. No spin, no bullshit. Cameron Schwab's going to join us. Cameron was the CEO at Melbourne, and he appointed Neil as coach. And he wrote a beautiful article that I read recently about, and he can share the thoughts. But- He told this story about Anthony McDonald.
I've had my own experiences with his no bullshit attitude, which I think for me came right at the end of my career. So I was so thankful and grateful. Had it come at the start, I might have just broken down into a crumbling mess. He must have given Macca a bit of a straighten up at a post-season meeting. And he walked out and Cameron saw him and said, how'd you go, Macca?
And Macca said, doesn't leave much dust on the shelf, does he? Which is just the most beautiful – he left no dust on no shelf when he wanted you to get a message across at different times.
He was as stern and direct and as brutally honest as any person that has ever walked the planet.
And he had a cold, cold demeanor when he got – I'm talking footy here. Let's not mistake it. No, I saw that. He was as cold as ice, and he made brutal calls on the run. The reverend came later. The warm, cuddly reverend came later. But his first entree into the world of coaching, he was a steely-eyed assassin who would take no prisoners.
It didn't matter if you'd been, as I was, the captain for seven years. He just said, listen. You want to be captain? I said, well, I enjoy it. I need my captains to play. In other words, if you ain't playing, you ain't going to be captain. That was just straight up right between the eyes.
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