What's next for Geelong? (15.09.26)
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What is the opening discussion about Geelong’s recent flag success?
Breakfast with Gary and Tim.
The wins in rear form he come when the preliminary final comes around, that's when he starts to just step right up to the plate and just starts whacking them out. He told you before anyone that Tim English said, hey, they said to Tim English, you're staying 'cause Toby uh Zack Butters want you. And he stayed and Zack Butters came. I give you my flowers. No, no, I'm true. Sometimes when the whiz speaks, they look in the wrong spot. They go after these other younger news hounds, but when the whiz speaks, listen. Can I ask you this question? Even Carrow gave you a mention last night. That's that's how s that's how significant. That's an interesting thing for Tim to say. It's the thawing. That's the first step of the thawing.
Okay, let's move on. Do you think do you think Geelong have placed enough value on a Ruckman over the last decade?
No, I think they've wrestled with that uh decision as much as anything that has been in Chris Scott's time. Can I tell I went a bit of a just an opinion?
A little bit of a deep dive yesterday. You know, their last five years, their most credentialed ruckman, who do you think their best.
How do the hosts evaluate Geelong’s use of ruckmen over the past decade?
Incorrect. Who do you think has been their best ruckman in the last five years based on performance?
Yeah, I would have said Stanley.
Blitzovs. Well, and would you cla no, um no, this these are the stats. That's what I'm saying to you. All right, thanks. Well, don't jump back at me because I'm actually telling you something. Yeah. That that's who statistically has been their number one Ruckman in five years. Now I'll put to you, he's not a Ruckman. No, he's not. That's why I never went for it. He's not a Ruckman. And I reckon it cost it has cost them it's been to the benefit many times. But I think it's been to the negative on occasion too, because where they could have deployed him, because he's been so good at playing so many different positions and the fact that they haven't been able to necessarily play him and use him somewhere else because he's been pinch hitting in the ruck, but he's actually become
As the last five years of statistics, he's become their most performed ruckman in their in their in their in their team.
Yeah, well maybe they'll address it. It's a hard one 'cause they like Edwards, but he's not quite there and got it you know, not f no disgrace. He was against Luke Jackson when Luke Jackson turned the the tide of that match.
Which player is considered Geelong’s best ruckman in the last five years?
Well in the last eight minutes of that game, they won six clearances fremantle. It wasn't Daniel Hoyne here. Edwards gave away three free kicks that resulted in goals. Two of those went to Jackson. Yeah. And he was just inexperienced. Like I'm not having a crack at the kid, but he just
weren't mucking around with their ruckman, they might have been able to get more games into him and he maybe didn't make those decisions.
Well that's all the things that are on the table that probably they're doing in their postseason analysis. I've got a couple of
interesting uh developments. Does Geelong now just cross out the butters on the contract and write in the merit? Well, that's an
interesting question because I think he he I think other clubs would be entertaining the idea of maybe recruiting him. Maybe he wasn't their number one priority. But do Adelaide now try given Their lack of depth. Yeah, I'm uh I but I'm throwing in Adelaide as another team. And I think Ge I I I think Geelong m maybe they looked a midfield. But Zach Yeah, but you wouldn't be he he's he's older than Butters. No,
you cross out Merritt. You cross out butters you write Merritt and you slash a couple of zeros. That's
right.
What impact did the lack of a genuine ruckman have on recent finals performances?
So you're not painting anywhere in a yeah. And a few years of a lot of people. And a few years, yeah. And a few years, yeah.
But in terms of what they're after, mm they want midfield depth, they want ball user, they want some things. Zach Merritt to Geelong would be He's
not as ferocious he can be. Oh, he's pretty ferocious. Yeah, uh but he's not at the same level that Zach Butters.
I don't think anyone is as ferocious as Zach Butters. So I think that's and is the second part of my interesting observation.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the opening discussion about Geelong’s recent flag success?
0:00–1:16
2
How do the hosts evaluate Geelong’s use of ruckmen over the past decade?
1:16–2:28
3
Which player is considered Geelong’s best ruckman in the last five years?
2:28–3:42
4
What impact did the lack of a genuine ruckman have on recent finals performances?
3:42–4:39
5
Should Geelong pursue Zach Merritt instead of Zach Butters?
4:39–5:19
6
How might Sam Darcy’s contract situation affect Geelong’s salary cap?
5:19–6:05
7
What are the prospects of Adelaide or other clubs targeting Geelong’s midfield talent?
6:05–6:28
8
What final thoughts do the hosts share about Geelong’s future recruitment strategy?
6:28–6:30
Speakers
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