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Serialously with Annie Elise

211: Hampton’s Sugar Baby Murder, Daughter BBQ’s Mom’s Body, Attorney Buys Teen for Sex & Mica Miller Updates

Thu, 07 Nov 2024

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Today’s episode dives into everything happening this week in true crime. From new cases to updates on existing ones and more.   Mica Miller Deep Dive: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mica-miller-what-really-happened/id1519456164?i=1000654861130  Beam To try Dream for the lowest price of the year, head over to https://www.shopbeam.com/ANNIEELISE for up to 50% off.   Uncommon Goods To get 15% off your next gift, go to https://www.UNCOMMONGOODS.com/AE   Shop the Merch: www.annieelise.com Follow the podcast on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@serialouslypodcast Follow the podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/serialouslypod/ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/annieelise All Social Media Links: https://www.flowcode.com/page/annieelise_ SERIALously FB Page: https://www.facebook.com/SERIALouslyAnnieElise/ About Me: https://annieelise.com/ For Business Inquiries: [email protected]      Sources: My Fox 8 NBC Washington People ABC 11 WPDE CBS News News 24 Audio Sources: KBZK NBC New York CBS New York Court TV

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Chapter 1: What is the introduction of this episode about?

17.323 - 21.784 Unknown Speaker

Hey, True Crime Besties. Welcome back to an all-new episode of Serialistly.

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41.052 - 64.736 Annie Elise

Hey everybody, welcome back to an all new episode of Serialistly with me, Annie Elise. I hope you guys are having a good week so far. It is officially fall here in California. It is so windy today and so cold. It definitely like feels like a crisp fall day, which I can't even believe that it's already like you know, well into November. I just don't understand where the year went.

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64.856 - 80.268 Annie Elise

But anyways, I hope you guys are all having a good week. Today's episode is Headline Highlights. As you know, we have so much to go over. I mean, unfortunately, there are a lot of new cases that we need to talk about, but there's also some crazy updates in some other cases.

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80.928 - 100.101 Annie Elise

And they're one of the cases, actually, I'll just tell you now that we're going to talk about is the Micah Miller case, because there's been some updates just within that situation of itself. There was an FBI raid and there's just a lot we need to talk about. Also, before we get started, I just want to let you guys know we did do a restock finally of the safety kits.

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Chapter 2: What updates are there on the Micah Miller case?

100.561 - 115.827 Annie Elise

If you remember, we sold out of those two or three times, I believe it was, and we've been waiting on the restock. We finally got it. I would imagine they're going to go quickly again, but you can get those at AnnieElise.com, whether you're getting it for yourself, for a gift, whatever it is you want to do. And we also...

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116.327 - 145.639 Annie Elise

threw up a couple leftover pieces of the exclusive tour merch so even if you weren't able to make one of the live shows you can now grab a piece of the merch but once it's gone it's gone but we do have the exclusive like rock tour tee up also the crime shows and comfy clothes sweatshirt so again once it's gone it's gone for good this time for not only the tour stuff but also the safety kits so grab it now it's all at annieelise.com now let's get into our first case of today because

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146.179 - 169.43 Annie Elise

This one, I don't even know what to really say and how to tee this up, because this first case that we're going to cover is just absolutely disgusting. Like, I am talking scum of the earth type of disgusting. 35-year-old Carl Skuman is a registered attorney in South Africa, and he is being accused of buying a 13-year-old girl and using her as a sex slave.

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169.79 - 194.768 Annie Elise

which we hear about crazy stuff all the time, right? But in this situation, a 35-year-old man buying a 13-year-old girl, a literal child. And the allegations are saying that this man repeatedly raped her daily, just beyond evil. And to make matters worse, take a guess as to who facilitated the sale. This creep bought this young girl. Somebody was facilitating that sale.

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194.868 - 215.782 Annie Elise

Somebody had to say, you know, hey, you can purchase this. And guess who that was? It was none other than the girl's very own mother. It is truly sick. And look, in my world of covering true crime, I have uncovered some pretty vile human beings, especially parents, I'll be honest, who will do anything for money.

216.302 - 237.257 Annie Elise

And it seems as though this is just another one of those instances where this mother wanted money so bad, didn't care about her daughter at all, that she literally sold her to a 35-year-old man. So this all started back in September of 2022, and the 38-year-old mother apparently went on in different adult websites.

237.457 - 254.511 Annie Elise

And we all know what adult websites I'm talking about, ones that posted advertisements for sexual services and things like that. Although she wasn't posting for herself, she was posting all of these sexual services from her daughter. And the websites were said to include Sex Trader and Red Velvet.

255.131 - 275.596 Annie Elise

Sex trader is kind of literally what it sounds like, almost like auto trader for cars, but it's literally sex. So she was apparently making these listings as though they were coming from her daughter. Just sick. And I cannot wrap my head around any of this because it truly is despicable. This 13-year-old's mom was essentially pimping her out.

276.036 - 299.118 Annie Elise

And she also had another daughter who was just 11 years old. So she's a mother of two. It is just disgusting. So anyway, that September, Carl made his very first booking with the 13-year-old little girl. And then, for the next few months, he started making more bookings. Then, in December, he asked the mother if he could, quote, buy the 13-year-old girl. And that is when the mother agreed.

Chapter 3: What is the disturbing case involving a 13-year-old girl and her mother?

299.719 - 318.282 Annie Elise

So he offered her about 160,000 Rand, which equates to a little less than $10,000 US dollars. And Carl made a down payment and gave this mom a car, which she could use in addition to the payment that he was going to make, just trying to solidify this deal. And that's really all it took.

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318.602 - 329.467 Annie Elise

It was as simple as that, and this mother sold her daughter, knowing what his intentions were, knowing what he was going to do with her daughter, all for a little under $10,000 plus a car.

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329.908 - 348.758 Annie Elise

It is sick, which I just can't imagine the state of this poor 13-year-old girl because, I mean, imagine being sold to a monster by one of the people and the one person, arguably, who is meant to love and protect you. So Carl buys this girl, and as I said, he allegedly would repeatedly rape her daily.

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349.078 - 372.774 Annie Elise

He would do it in a guest house or even in the mother's house, and if the 13-year-old ever tried to refuse, he would up the ante, so to speak, and he would point a gun at her, and he would threaten her. Also, he allegedly filmed what he was doing to her every single time. He kept this little girl locked inside a room with no food, no water, and he even sometimes would force her to clean for him.

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373.234 - 397.385 Annie Elise

Which it really does illustrate once again how insane it is and what people are capable of doing to children. So as all of this is now starting to unravel, it was confirmed that Carl is a registered attorney under CBS Attorneys. And his Facebook profile said that he also owned the legal practice. But apparently not only is he like this terrible human being, but he's also a pretty lousy attorney.

397.765 - 416.351 Annie Elise

He currently has three active complaints against him. The complaints are failure to account, failure to attend to a matter diligently, and also has engaged in actions that have damaged his reputation, which, obviously, hello, I think that's pretty clear. So last Wednesday, Carl appeared in court, and he pleaded not guilty to all of the charges.

416.911 - 446.207 Annie Elise

However, he is charged on 26 counts, including four counts of rape, exploitation, kidnapping, human trafficking, and child abuse. He was granted bail of 30,000 rand, which is about 1,700 US dollars. This was after he was arrested back in 2023. And all I can really say is, this guy was willing to pay 160,000 rand to buy this little girl in the first place, yet his bail was only set at 30,000 rand?

446.567 - 469.871 Annie Elise

It just makes no sense to me. Like, how can a man like this even be granted bail, right? Now let's also talk about the mother, because she also pleaded not guilty to all of the charges against her. As of right now, she has been charged on 72 counts. These include sexual exploitation of children, child abuse, rape, human trafficking, kidnapping, and creating child pornography.

470.192 - 485.204 Annie Elise

And luckily, she is currently still in custody. Now, this woman must have been some kind of evil because she allegedly forced both of her young daughters to have sex with multiple people in the guest houses, all in exchange for money.

Chapter 4: What happened in the murder of Dustin Gerson?

1069.753 - 1080.042 Annie Elise

She became a very well-known and respected artist in the community, especially in New York City. Anyone who knew her said that she was just this extremely passionate and talented artist.

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1080.521 - 1087.668 Unknown Speaker

She was a force of energy, like no one you've ever met. She was so engaging, magnetic.

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1088.029 - 1102.984 Annie Elise

She was known to not really stay anywhere too long either. She was traveling around the world to work on different projects, participate in different art festivals, all sorts of things. And she had actually just won her first artistic residency, and she was set to move to Portugal later this month.

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1103.484 - 1124.297 Annie Elise

And because of that, over the summer, she started a GoFundMe page asking for money as a birthday gift. And the top donor on the site was none other than Thomas. He posted on the page, quote, You have an amazing gift, and soon all the world will see. I love you. Now, this is all coming from the guy who allegedly went on to murder her.

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1124.637 - 1135.544 Annie Elise

Now, another thing, was Thomas definitely referred to Sabina as his girlfriend, but to Sabina's close inner circle, Thomas was more so seen as a sugar daddy.

1135.905 - 1149.794 Annie Elise

Thomas would travel around with Sabina, he would fund her art projects, and most of her friends saw him as, you know, a loosely, loose word, I don't know how to say that, guys, you know what I'm talking about, like an investor, but not really, you kind of get where I'm going, more of like a sugar daddy.

1150.515 - 1157.061 Annie Elise

Her friends also noticed his aggressive behavior, and so much so that they told her a few times that she needed to get rid of him.

1158.282 - 1169.793 Unknown Speaker

He was here for dinner twice. He had money, and he wanted to help her, and he wanted to be with her all the time. What kind of a feeling did you get from that? Well, we both had the creeps.

1170.193 - 1182.509 Unknown Speaker

It was more like... a benefactor relationship. The benefactor just really got too obsessed with the artist.

Chapter 5: What are the details surrounding the Hamptons luxury spa murder?

1615.427 - 1630.48 John Smith

And I did everything I could to protect her from the abusive people who were trying to stop her from taking her medicine. And I had the private eye to tell me if she would go near a gun store. That was the purpose. I said, can you all track her and just tell me if she goes near a gun store? And they said, well, we can't track her for that reason.

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1630.5 - 1639.148 John Smith

We can tell you if she goes near a gun store, but we have to have something that's like, you know, a divorce going on or something. I said, well, I guess we're getting a divorce. No, no, I filed for divorce before that.

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1639.676 - 1659.022 Annie Elise

Micah's family has been trying to get the coercive control bill passed, calling it the Micah Bill. It's an act meant to protect victims of domestic violence. However, when John was asked why he thought the family was doing all of this and why they were accusing him, he responded by saying, quote, they want money and fame. They will do anything for money.

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1659.562 - 1678.852 Annie Elise

Which, I gotta just say, this guy has been grimy from the jump, and I've done some deep dives over on my YouTube about this whole case and circumstance, and he has a very long history of being grimy. He, I believe, started grooming Micah when she was just 13 years old in the church. I believe he's had multiple affairs.

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1679.532 - 1698.838 Annie Elise

Again, it's not top of mind because it's been several months now, but I will link the deep dive in the show notes for you so that you can get fully caught up on this. I think we did a podcast episode of it too, so I will link that in the show notes, but this guy is like filth in my opinion. So anyway, that brings us to now, and the FBI raided his home last Friday.

1699.338 - 1720.411 Annie Elise

The search warrant hasn't been made public yet. However, it is fascinating and it has a lot of people talking because, I mean, for a search warrant to even be executed, there has to be reasonable grounds and evidence. So I do wonder what was taken into custody or what evidence they were looking for. I think it's more not tied to MICA. I think it's more financially driven because there was a lot of

1720.871 - 1744.837 Annie Elise

speculation that he was hiding money from the church that he was doing some shady things financially and i think that that's what this probably is more so about however as you can imagine everybody's speculating right and they're wondering could it be tied to micah could it be tied to her death however the county sheriff's office did say that there is currently no evidence connecting john to micah's death they said that they are investigating something unrelated to the suicide

1745.257 - 1762.684 Annie Elise

but they didn't say anything about the nature of the investigation. So we're just going to have to keep tabs on it and watch it, but it definitely did kind of catapult this case back into the spotlight. Now let's talk about this looney tune daughter who is accused of killing her mom with a chainsaw and then putting her remains on the grill.

Chapter 6: Who was Sabina Rosas and what led to her tragic death?

1762.944 - 1785.837 Annie Elise

Because this case is truly, truly shocking, but a woman from Maryland has been found guilty of murder, and not just any kind of murder. she allegedly murdered her mother with her own daughter as an accomplice. Now, that phrase sounds confusing. Let me break it down. Basically, 46-year-old Candace Craig is accused of murdering her mother, Margaret Craig.

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1786.337 - 1809.794 Annie Elise

And after the fact, Candace's daughter, Salia, is also pleading guilty to being an accessory to murder. And that's not all. After Candace killed her mother, she ended up keeping her body in storage in like a storage container for a few days. Then, along with the help of her daughter, who was only 19 years old at the time, they tried to get rid of the mother's body and her remains.

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1810.094 - 1831.269 Annie Elise

And they tried to do this by grilling her on a barbecue. It is shocking and disgusting because, first of all, for any daughter to kill her mom and then try to get rid of her remains on a barbecue, it's like... Honestly, it's just, if you could see me right now, my eyes are closed. I have my like hands to my temples. I'm shaking my head. It's just like unbelievable.

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1831.529 - 1851.699 Annie Elise

But then you're enlisting your 19-year-old daughter to help dispose of her grandmother's remains on a freaking barbecue. It's crazy. So this past Friday, Candace was found guilty after eight days of trial. She's found guilty of first-degree murder, second-degree murder, tampering with evidence, and disposing of a body in an unauthorized place.

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1851.979 - 1872.489 Annie Elise

Now, this all happened back in 2023, and her daughter testified that the murder, the whole reason it even happened, was because Margaret found out that her daughter Candace was stealing money from her bank account and also committing credit card fraud. Tale as old as time, right? It's either affairs or money, affairs or money, life insurance, money, affairs. Like, so what?

1872.549 - 1887.221 Annie Elise

She was stealing money from her mom and committing credit card fraud. And so when her mom caught her and called her out on it, she thought in her head, oh, I better kill you now and I better get my daughter to help me throw you on the grill so we don't get caught. Like, what goes through these people's minds?

1887.621 - 1911.334 Annie Elise

So the daughter goes on to testify that on May 23rd, 2023, she heard a scream come from the grandmother's room. Candace told her daughter not to go into the bedroom, also allegedly saying that if anything happened to her, her daughter had to be prepared to quote, look out for her sisters. The very next day, this daughter slash granddaughter found her grandmother's dead body inside a storage bin.

1911.954 - 1932.862 Annie Elise

A few days later is when they tried to get rid of the remains on the grill. But now, this gets kind of crazy because the mother-daughter duo brought the remains and the grill into the woods behind their house. And when they did, they poured gasoline all over the dead body and then tried to burn it. However, when they did that, the fire started spreading.

1933.122 - 1948.348 Annie Elise

And because of that, neighbors started coming out, they had water, the fire department came to put the fire out. I mean, these women were somehow able to not let anyone find out what they were actually burning during all of this, which... It's kind of crazy to me, but like also so stupid.

Chapter 7: What complexities surrounded Sabina Rosas's relationships?

2083.465 - 2105.52 Annie Elise

Also, let me just add that the older brother was living with her as a registered paid caretaker. And it gets worse once you hear the state of Heather's living conditions, the daughter who died from neglect, the teen daughter. So let me kind of rewind a little bit. Heather Baynard was 14 years old, and she was severely disabled. She had epilepsy. She had cerebral palsy.

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2105.6 - 2129.584 Annie Elise

She also had suffered a stroke when she was in utero. She had the brain development of a three-month-old little girl. and truly had a very tough life. She was brought to a hospital in 2022 after she was found unresponsive in her home. Then, unfortunately, she passed away at the hospital. But after her death, their home was searched, and what was found was truly shocking.

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2130.345 - 2152.111 Annie Elise

Now, first of all, there were 40 animals living inside the house. Four zero. That in and of itself is insane to me. The house was also disgusting. I mean, thrashed. There was urine and feces everywhere. There was trash piling up to the ceiling. It was flea infested. It was disgusting. And it wasn't just fleas. There were roaches. There were maggots. There were flies.

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2152.211 - 2175.65 Annie Elise

I mean, it makes me want to vomit just talking about it. And police even had to wear safety suits just to enter the home. It was sick. Now, these horrific and disgusting and gross conditions of the house ultimately made Heather's skin break down and rot, quite literally. One of the witnesses from the hospital even described Heather's legs as looking like, quote, raw meat.

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2176.511 - 2196.029 Annie Elise

The coroner on the case also said that this was the absolute worst case of child neglect that he had ever seen. It's devastating. It's disgusting. It's cruel. It's unacceptable. This poor girl had no way of protecting herself or speaking up for herself. She relied on her family, and this is what they did to her.

2196.549 - 2217.599 Annie Elise

Investigators also said that Heather's parents canceled all of her doctor's appointments during that last year of her life, which... How could you cancel all of somebody's doctor's appointments for someone so medically dependent? The whole thing is honestly just beyond me and it's so heartbreaking for Heather. And you know what it reminds me a lot of? Gosh, I can't remember the exact name.

2217.619 - 2241.588 Annie Elise

It was probably a year and a half ago now, maybe a little less, maybe a little more. But there was a case that was very similar where the parents neglected their disabled daughter and she literally rotted into the couch. Do you guys remember that case where literally she and the cushions and fabric became one because of all of the body secretions, because of all of that? It's so incredibly foul.

2241.948 - 2250.272 Annie Elise

So going back to Heather and getting justice for her, it was a four-day trial with it only taking two hours for the jury to deliver the guilty verdict.

2250.652 - 2282.106 Prosecutor

The suffering that she went through, not for a minute, not for an hour, not for a day, but for weeks. Ladies and gentlemen, that's not malice. I don't know what it is. Malice is malice. It's ill will. It's just total disregard. And I had that little girl in that situation where she can't escape. She's totally dependent on them.

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