Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Everyone says, like, I could never join a cult. Like, I would never fall for that. Oh, I would. You would.
I really love friendly groups. I love cooking. I love it when people are, like, trying to help each other actualize their dreams. And I like it when people, like, are dedicated to each other. And a lot of times cults are, like, nonviolent. Except I don't like having to be naked in a group of people. And I don't like having to do, like, oral sex to, like, the head of the cult.
Yeah.
That's in the cult bylaws.
There's usually some guy.
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Chapter 2: How did King Louis XVI plan to escape Paris?
Today, I'm joined by one of my dear friends. She's an actress, a writer, a comedian. She's been in so many incredible shows and movies, like it's borderline annoying. Just to name a few, Obvious Child. Zootopia, Gifted, Everything Everywhere All at Once, an Emmy nominee for Dying for Sex with Michelle Williams, an Oscar nominee for Marcel the Shell.
She's the author of two fabulous books, Little Weirds and Life Form. And she recently launched her own podcast called I Need You Guys with Gabe Liedman and Max Silvestri. Please welcome the amazing Jenny Slate.
Hi. Hi, Ed. Hello.
We were neighbors for a short time.
Big time.
Here in Los Angeles.
Yeah.
I've known you for a long, long time. But then at some point in that, you also were our neighbor and my family began to call you Kramer because of your wacky interests. Yeah.
And also because it was like there wasn't a lot keeping me out. You know, like Kramer's always kind of busting through the door with some sort of really interesting concept. I'm not sure I had those interesting concepts, but I was coming through the door with big energy in my hair and really coming over a lot.
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Chapter 3: What went wrong during the flight to Varennes?
I'm now in the fourth season of Snafu. I'm like trying to box out everyone I can from also joining the podcast space because we need all the listeners we can get. So what are you doing? You're horning in on this format, but also congratulations and I'm excited for you. And what is it?
We... We have a joke that it's like it's only took us only 16 years to finally do a podcast. It just took us so long. Like every other comedian in the world has had a podcast for many years now. And we just like, I don't know, what can I say? We like to chill. But Gabe and Max and I, I don't know, 15 years ago, really started a stand up show. in New York.
Uh, first it was in Manhattan at Rafifi in the East village. And then it was in Williamsburg. And we finally got our act together to do what we kind of do on stage, just on a podcast, which is that like on, in our standup show, we always started the standup show with a Q and a, like before anyone had any questions about our material, we would just ask random questions and it was really fun.
And, um, so now basically our podcast is like It's kind of like making our group chat live. It's called I Need You Guys because we don't live in the same places anymore and we still talk every day and we need each other. So we'll bring questions to each other about our lives and then we have a friend, usually it's a comedian, come and answer like an etiquette, etiquette, etiquette?
It's like I'm not reading copy. I don't need to, you know, misspeak. Like a question about etiquette.
It's etiquette. Etiquette.
Etiquette.
So just so our listeners know, this podcast is out. It is out. And you can get into it right now.
Yeah. It's reallyā It's kind of like sitting at a dinner table with friends. It's just a nice, easy, funny, easy listen.
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Chapter 4: How did the royal family react to being caught?
I'm ready to snafu.
Let's do it. We're going to jump into this. We're going to venture all the way back to 1791. It was a tough year to be a French guy named Louis, especiallyā if you were Louis XVI, the French king. So today's topic is the French Revolution. Now, I'd love to cover the whole thing, but that would take at least 10 podcasts and like a gallon of espresso and a PhD in guillotine technology.
So instead, we're going to just zoom in on this one really tiny but absolutely bonkers episode within the French Revolution, the Royal Escape Attempt that went spectacularly wrong. It's sneaky, it is suspenseful, and it turned out to be a massive turning point in the entire revolution. This is the flight to Varennes. Are you ready?
Hell yeah, man. This is so cool. Yeah. I wasn't expecting to learn so much, and you know I love French stuff.
What is it you like about French stuff?
I love all the jewels that I just stole from the Louvre. I love the crown I got. I'm super bummed that I dropped that other crown, but I love like the necklaces and stuff.
All right, a quick crash course on the French Revolution before we get to our main event here. It all started because France was basically broke. The peasants were starving and the monarchy was still out there throwing lavish parties. Picture an episode of Succession where they all go to a rave in powdered wigs. So the French people were just finally like, enough. This is enough.
And they stormed the Bastille and they decided maybe government shouldn't be run exclusively by rich douchebags. Good. A good policy.
I feel like that.
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Chapter 5: What were the consequences of Louis XVI's escape attempt?
It's not great.
Well, cut to a couple of years later now and the revolutionaries have taken power and King Louis XVI, Marie Antoinette, and their kids are basically grounded. They're under house arrest in the Tuileries Palace in the heart of Paris. And the revolutionaries are frantically trying to reinvent their entire system of government, which is no small task.
Marie Antoinette, of course, famous for the phrase, let them eat cake. Darn it. Which is a very rude thing to say when people are starving and they can't get bread.
I know, but I don't think she said that. She didn't. No. You're right. I read this book that says she did not say that. You know, she didn't say that.
She did not.
She didn't say it.
Yo, she didn't say that. If you're going to come at me like that, like, she did not say that. Like, check your facts.
I'm so sorry. I was going to be all smarty pants and be like, but she did it. And you jumped on that. And kudos to you for knowing that. It originally appeared in Jean-Jacques Rousseau's Confessions, which he wrote in 1766. Marie Antoinette was 10 years old and she was living in Austria. So obviously... So it's early 1791.
This is before the revolution had gone full, just like guillotine chopping everybody's heads off. And France is now experimenting with this brand new idea, the constitutional monarchy, where the king will share power with the population.
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Chapter 6: How did public perception of the monarchy change after the escape?
And spoiler alert, King Louis did not like this.
He was not a fan.
The people were rising up and he was feeling very threatened by all of this. So by June of that year, the revolutionaries were finishing up their shiny new constitution, codifying all of this. And King Louis, ever the people pleaser, was out there pretending to be totally chill about it. He was like, yeah, let's have parliament run things.
I'll just be like a figurehead, a decorative monarch, a bit of a like just a human chandelier, if you will, hanging over. Over France. And this, of course, is right after the actual American Revolution.
Mm hmm.
And it does ā it just raises ā I don't know. It raises this interesting philosophical question for me. Like oppressed people very often rise up at a ā they reach a breaking point and they rise up. And then they either choose as the sort of American revolution and the French revolution. That option was democracy or like a representative government, like down with these bully kings or ā
The other option is an oppressed population will sort of like rise up and elevate a strongman who is essentially a king of sorts. And why do you think that happens? I think the strongman version is actually more common and it speaks to like something in the human condition. Are we just ā is freedom too messy? Is it too complicated? Are we ā is it too scary?
You know what I think it is? I mean, not to be like so self-serious, but I actually think it has to do with like fear and trauma. The American Revolution, it's like a lot of those people were like wealthy landowners who were like, we don't want King George, you know, like we want to do our own thing. They weren't really like we the people rising up, like they were like wealthy, you know, and
And and then they they took like their education and their wealth and they like made, you know, a democracy. But like if you're just like traumatized and frightened and you you're starving, like, of course, you're going to be like, yeah, and just like replace a bad dad with what seems like a good dad. Like, you know, just one thing at a time.
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Chapter 7: What was the significance of Marie Antoinette's fate?
That's just how I feel.
I think that's a very, very sharp take. Well, well said. King Louis, at this point, he's kind of freaking out. And he's kind of stuck in the middle, pretending everything's fine and pretending like he has value and has power, but he's seeing it all slip away. So... And he's feeling threatened also. He's feeling like his life and his family are very much in danger now in the middle of Paris.
So he hatches this plan. They're going to slip out of Paris. They're going to meet up with loyal troops near the border and stage a royal comeback. But first, they must escape Paris. And thus begins the flight to Varennes.
Wow. Okay. Can I just ask, like during this time when he's stuck in, when they're stuck in there, is he still, you know, having like three glazed gooses a day? You know what I mean? Like, is he still having those like crazy elaborate meals and, you know, wearing, wearing, wearing the stuff, just like doing all that stuff?
Is he still just like all procedures are still those like three hour baths or whatever, you know?
Yeah. A three hour bath with three glazed gooses.
Yeah. Yeah.
My sense of it, and keep in mind, I'm very much falling into the amateur historian category, but my sense of it is that this is a scaled-back version of that. So in Versailles, it was a mess. Like, it was so decadent, the parties, all of the insanity. Leading up to this, there had been protest march where they actually grabbed the royal family and marched them to Paris.
And this was a very humbling experience. And so, yes, they are still in a palace. They're still technically royalty. They're still trying to hash out this shared leadership idea, the constitutional monarchy. So they're still acting like a king and queen. And so I do think there are glazed gooses in the mix and there are ā
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Chapter 8: How does this story reflect on modern societal issues?
And they would they were posing as the entourage of this of this fake Russian baron. And they would slip out of Paris in the dark of night. Then, of course, link up with their loyal troops and spark a royal comeback. This is, in theory, a flawless plan. But in reality, it turned into a train wreck or, as we will soon see, a carriage wreck of sorts.
This elaborate plan, it's very, like I said, it's cloak and daggery. It starts to fall apart immediately. The palace maid noticed the family packing and starts asking weird questions like, what's going on? They have that detachment from reality where they still feel like they have to bring like crazy amounts of royal luggage.
And oh, my God, that situation where you're like so rich, you don't know anything. It's like, just get out of here, man. Yeah, just don't pack a trunk. You don't need your like silver bugle or whatever. And like all your pantaloons, like just get out.
I mean, the silver bugle might come in handy.
You don't get a bed. You don't get what do they call it? A little thing. They go to the bathroom and you don't get to chamber pot.
Yeah, there you go. You would have been such a better Marie Antoinette. Oh, my God. They're just these soldiers in these towns, and that's raising questions. The peasantry is getting real antsy. And, like, what are all these soldiers doing here? This does not feel chill. It kind of feels like the National Guard, like, marching into, like, a normal city. Like, what? People are upset.
That would be crazy, Ed.
It upsets people.
That would be really disconcerting and wrong and feel like maybe it's illegal or waiting for a judge to say.
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