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John Regalado 0:00
From Jubilee Media, this is Surrounded, where one brave soul faces a room full of disagreers. Hey, listeners, this is John Regalado. We are on the road right now recording brand new episodes of the show with some really amazing featured guests. We can't tell you who they are, but we know you guys are going to love them. And we can't wait for these episodes to come out. But for today's episode, we are going to dig back into some of the spiciest and most interesting prompts from the past year. The show has had so many interesting interactions, whether they're heated, emotional, or just funny. And we just wanted to share some of our favorites with you. So we hope you enjoy. And please do tune in for the episodes that we're filming right now.
John Regalado 0:42
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Dr. Jordan Peterson 0:54
I'm Mandy Hussle. I'm Dr. Jordan Peterson.
Amanda Seals 0:56
I am Amanda Seals.
Dr. Jordan Peterson 0:58
Hi, my name is Candace Owens. Hi, I'm Sam Seder. Today, I am surrounded by 20 conservatives. My first claim is Trump's attack on DEI hides his real goal, which is to give corporations more power.
Sam Seder 1:16
Hi. How are you? Good. How you doing? Okay. When it comes to DEI, essentially, if a person was not racist, he would hire someone regardless, right? So why would we need a policy to protect a person if we've moved past racism? So would you consider yourself racist?
Dr. Jordan Peterson 1:34
Wait, are you suggesting we've moved past racism?
Sam Seder 1:37
Would you consider yourself racist?
Dr. Jordan Peterson 1:39
I consider myself, and sometimes I practice, I think we all practice some form of white supremacy. I think actually we all do to some degree.
Sam Seder 1:49
Well, I'm glad that you're saying that. So, I guess going to the LGBT topic, it seems like it's very prevalent for you as an issue.
Dr. Jordan Peterson 1:56
Well, it seems like a big issue. I mean, the Republican Party spent literally hundreds of millions of dollars demonizing trans people.
Sam Seder 2:04
Well, the reason why they've done something like that, and I think you're misconstruing the narrative, they haven't demonized them. They simply want protections back for their own children because children are being stripped away from their parents.
Dr. Jordan Peterson 2:14
Who's their own children? Parents. Children are being stripped away from their parents?
Sam Seder 2:18
Yes. Due to AB 954, they've now included gender identity as a premise to remove and strip parental rights for children who... who maybe they are rejecting their gender ideology.
Dr. Jordan Peterson 2:31
But you'd be okay with parents who agree with their children's doctors to provide gender-affirming care? I do not agree with that. Do you? I believe that parents and doctors can make those decisions with the kids, of course.
Sam Seder 2:48
If a child can't smoke, drink, or have sex before the age of 18, they should not be able to consent to a sex change. Now, in terms of a DEI initiative, the reason why there's military bans on trans women and trans men is because they do not have the ability to cooperate at a mental capacity when they're constantly undergoing hormone treatment, as well as depression pills, as well as different mood stabilizer pills. And so when you go out to combat, do you really think you're going to bring an ice cooler pack with your whether that be hormone, estrogen, or whatever it may be, while you're about to shoot someone of the opposing war?
Dr. Jordan Peterson 3:27
Well, the executive orders that Trump gave were DEIA orders that had to do with agencies that have nothing to do with the military.
Sam Seder 3:36
Yes, they do.
Dr. Jordan Peterson 3:37
Yes, they absolutely do. The FDA? They just revoked the ability of the Air Force to teach Air Force members about the Tuskegee Airmen. What are we talking about here? Honestly, they're rewriting history.

How does Sam Seder challenge conservative views on DEI?

Sam Seder 3:55
Well, that's your perspective, right? But at the end of the day, if a person... To Sigi Ehrman, we can all agree existed, right? Just listen to this. If you were racist, right, and you were an employer, and if you wanted to absolutely be racist and exercise that, you would. I think DEI sort of prevents people from seeing the reality. If a person truly wanted...

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