634 - Smart Summaries and Real-World Evidence: How HEALWELL AI is Supporting Clinicians
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Who is Aaron Leibtag and how did he transition from finance to health‑tech?
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Welcome to the Talking Health Tech Podcast. My name is Peter Birch. Today on the show, I'm joined by Aaron Liebtag from Heel Well. He's the co-founder of Pentavir, um, the inventors of Darwin AI. I've got so much to talk about uh with you, Aaron. Thank you so much for joining me today. Thanks
so much for having me, Pete.
Look, I feel like this was a more appropriate place to have a conversation because for context, um uh the first time we spoke, I was wearing my high-vis vest uh during Digital Health Festival between the things, and we spoke to each other in the corridors for all of about a minute or two. I'm like, no, there's there's more to this conversation that needs to be had on a in a podcast forum. So now that you're are you back home in Toronto, or at least we're in different times. It's good to be able to sit down for a longer conversation.
I'm I I am in Toronto and thrilled to remember that conversation and and really looking forward to uh to this conversation.
Yeah, cool. And the um uh so tell me a bit more. The uh your background experience and things, because there's the the Pentavere plea uh piece that ties in with Heelwell, with our good friends from Orion. Um let's not get too far ahead of ourselves here, but maybe introduce yourself. Tell us a bit more about you, the work you do, your background, and then how that kind of and then probably go from.
Sure thing. So as you said, my name's Aaron Liegtag. Uh in around 2017, myself and my co-founder, uh gentleman by the name of Stephen Aviv, we started a company called Pentiveer. Uh both of us before that spent over 15 years in finance, zero health degree health uh experience, but in finance, you know, data. good people, good processes You know, returning capital are really important things. And um both of us always had that appreciation around good data, good people, good processes, magic happens.
Why is roughly 80% of clinical data unused and what problems does that cause?
And when that falls apart, like disaster happens. Um, you know, Steve, from a technical architecture perspective, you know, spent a career building global systems, essentially managing risks. So if you think about John Hancock's in New Hedging system. He designed that system. And unfortunately, his mother went into a hospital. She broke her ankle. It should have been routine. She had several comorbidities that, you know, a healthcare professional would say, you know what? We should manage risk by setting the cast like this, maybe a regiment of blood thinners. It was documented in the chart, at no fault of the kid. Yeah. It just didn't happen and she passed away. So here you have Two guys in finance looking at healthcare and saying, How did that happen?
And The string that we pulled was it's because the majority of information that is documented. So this isn't prediction, this isn't forecasting, this is there is documentation by a healthcare professional uh somewhere in your electronic health record. But the vast majority of that isn't used. And back in 2017, we said, how is it that in industry, healthcare, that 17% of most countries' GDPs is actually life and death. The majority of data isn't used to improve healthcare at all. So we went about solving that. But we did it really, really differently than sort of your typical startup. We embedded ourselves in one of Canada's largest hospitals, an incubator that was really around validating medical devices.
And we published with that hospital the first ever peer-reviewed publication using our early natural language processing algorithms against real unstructured clinical.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
Who is Aaron Leibtag and how did he transition from finance to health‑tech?
0:00–2:29
2
Why is roughly 80% of clinical data unused and what problems does that cause?
2:29–4:47
3
How does Pentavere’s Darwin AI engine turn free‑text notes into trusted clinical summaries?
4:47–10:19
4
What were the results of the Darwin Power Smart Summary pilot with Canada Infoway?
10:19–16:07
5
How are real‑world evidence studies using AI being run across Canada, the US, Europe and the Middle East?
16:07–21:25
6
What ethical, privacy and governance challenges arise when deploying AI in hospitals?
21:25–26:37
7
How does Orion Health’s interoperability platform enable AI‑driven solutions in Australia?
26:37–31:32
8
What future initiatives (e.g., breast‑cancer screening, patient‑level AI tools) can listeners expect from HEALWELL AI?
31:32–35:10
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