635 - Vital Signs Monitoring Reimagined: Predictive, Not Detective, and Ahead of the Alarm
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Welcome to the Talking Health Tech podcast. My name is Peter Birch. Today on the show, I'm joined by Andy Hurt, head of strategic accounts at Ericom and Sam Yang, co-founder and CEO at Zandacardi. And g'day gents, how are we going?
Couldn't be better. Yeah, good morning.
Nice one. Good to have you here on the show. Looking forward to diving into a topic that I don't think we've covered too much or not in this amount of detail either and exploring some of the ways technologies can really get in front of some issues in ways some people maybe haven't thought about or might break some of their preconceived ideas on how to do it. So let's kind of dive in. But firstly, let's get some context. Andy, tell us a bit more about you and Ericom and the work you do and we'll go from there.
I'm Andy Hurt. I focus in the Australian New Zealand market, primarily focused in the health sector. My job is to spend all my days talking to clinicians, facility managers, IT people in the health business, understanding their needs and understanding how to improve care models for each of those different environments that they're trying to pass on and do every day, whether it be a a workflow in the business to improve care models or it is introducing technology really just to enhance the ability to see how individual residents or patients are actually performing each
day. Got it. What about you, Sam?
Yeah, so I'm the CEO and co-founder for a medtech startup company called Xandercardian.
What is contactless ultra‑wideband radar and how does it enable continuous vital‑sign monitoring?
And we specialize in using radars to collect your heart rate and breathing rate, health information basically, ambiently. So non-contact, through the air, and continuous real-time.
Interesting, because when I think about... continuous monitoring in healthcare. And if my mind went to like, Oh, I'm managing a, um, healthcare facility or, uh, like a location where I need to know, like what everyone is doing. My, my mind immediately goes to, well, the technology that we've got available to us is, uh, cameras or wearables or, um, you know, audio, like all the different detection things. But, um, Not too familiar with this contactless monitoring through radar, did you say? Maybe tell us a
bit more about the
technology there,
Sam. Yeah, so the camera, you mentioned privacy issue. Wearable is compliance issue. But that's the obvious thing. The thing that people don't really associate radars is with the accuracy of the measurements as well as the unique information that you can collect with radar. We're not trying to have you put down your smart ring and use our device. No, you can do whatever you want. You can use a ring, you can use a wearable, but you're collecting information differently. Now, let me explain why. The radar that we use is something called an impulse ultra wideband radar. Now, the impulse signature is pulsing about 15 million signatures, so radio frequency signatures per second. And these are 40 times safer, so lower power, 40 times lower power than home Wi-Fi routers.
So no, it's not going to radiate. It has no impact. Hearing aids, pacemaker, no problem, right? So it's actually been tested in NICU. We have clinical trials on NICU, so neonatal intensive care unit. So putting this sensor around your bed, so it can be above your bed, near your bedside, or wherever it is, it will automatically collect how you're moving. So first data that we collect is your body motion. So tossing and turning during your sleep, we can use that. If you leave the bed in the middle of the night, bed exit, we can use that information.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–2:12
2
What is contactless ultra‑wideband radar and how does it enable continuous vital‑sign monitoring?
2:12–6:15
3
Which clinical and aged‑care use cases benefit most from radar‑based monitoring?
6:15–10:54
4
How does the POBC (Probability of Baseline Change) score enable early intervention before deterioration?
10:54–12:21
5
What regulatory clearances (FDA, TGA, etc.) does the technology hold for global deployment?
12:21–13:55
6
How does predictive baseline data reduce overall healthcare costs and resource strain?
13:55–19:42
7
What strategies are used to avoid alarm fatigue while still flagging meaningful baseline deviations?
19:42–22:14
8
How can the radar system be integrated into existing clinical workflows and health‑facility infrastructure?
22:14–32:28
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