In this episode of Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn Melinek speaks with Diogo Mónica, general partner at Haun Ventures, executive chairman and co-founder of Anchorage Digital, and board member of Erebor. Diogo explains how stablecoins, tokenized equities, and generative finance are evolving and why Haun Ventures invested in Palmer Luckey's Erebor Bank, which received the first national bank charter under the second Trump administration.He walks through why Erebor raised $635 million in committed capital to serve AI, crypto, and defense, how OCC-chartered banks differ from fintech apps that operate through partner banks, and why getting a proper federal charter matters for building trust. The conversation covers the founding team's expertise spanning Oculus, Anduril, Circle, and compliance backgrounds, how Erebor secured its charter in under eight months, and why this marks a shift toward more crypto-friendly banking regulation.TIMESTAMPS (00:00) Intro(01:44) Why institutions are here but crypto tokens aren't going up(03:23) Generative finance: turning language directly into financial products with AI(05:31) Why Haun Ventures invested in Erebor, Palmer Luckey's new bank(09:10) How Erebor secured its OCC charter in under eight months(12:22) What an OCC charter means and why it matters for crypto banking(14:08) How Erebor differs from fintechs like Mercury that aren't actual banks(17:43) The future of banking: will new rails beat old incumbents(19:24) Building trust in crypto banking after historical de-banking experiences(21:07) The challenge of opening bank accounts with "crypto" in company names(22:07) Behind Erebor's founding teamESSENTIALS You can subscribe to the podcast on Spotify, Apple or YouTube. If you enjoy the show, please leave a review — it really helps. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141 Follow us on X Jacquelyn: https://twitter.com/jacqmelinek Talking Tokens: https://twitter.com/_TalkingTokens Follow us on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/_talkingtokens/ Note: This podcast is for informational purposes only. Views shared are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have financial interests in discussed content.

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