In today's episode of Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn sits down with Jake Chervinsky, founder and CEO of the Hyperliquid Policy Center, to discuss how perpetual futures could move beyond crypto and what it would take to bring regulated onchain markets to the U.S.Jake breaks down why 24/7 price discovery matters, how perpetual futures could complement traditional derivatives markets, and why oil could be a natural next market for onchain trading. They discuss Hyperliquid's role as infrastructure for exchanges, the potential for regulated perpetual futures in the U.S., how onchain markets could improve liquidity and price discovery, and why not every traditional market necessarily needs to trade 24/7. Timestamps00:00 Jake Chervinsky and the Hyperliquid Policy Center 02:37 Why Jake believes in Hyperliquid 05:03 What makes Hyperliquid different 06:21 Taking perpetual futures beyond crypto 09:39 Perpetual futures explained 11:25 What 24/7 markets reveal about price discovery 13:01 Why pricing doesn't stop when markets close 14:08 Should every market trade 24/7? 16:01 Why oil could be the next market for perpetual futures 18:44 Who would use oil perpetuals? 19:18 What Hyperliquid could change about financial markets 21:00 Bringing regulated perpetual futures to the U.S. New episodes every week https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141 Follow us Jacquelyn on X: /jacqmelinek Talking Tokens on X: /_talkingtokens Talking Tokens on Instagram: /_talkingtokens Follow Jake Chervinskyhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jakechervinskyhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jakechervinskyThis episode is sponsored by Forgd, visit its Market Maker Leaderboard on Token Relations here: www.stratamedia.co/token-relations/leaderboard Today’s episode is sponsored by Anchorage Digital, America's first federally chartered digital asset bank and provider of regulated stablecoin issuance. To find out more, visit anchorage.com This episode is brought to you by GSR, crypto’s capital markets partner, learn more at https://www.gsr.io/

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