Suspension of the rules. - Kmele Foster blows up on the internet, Ari has a good guy of the week, Abdul El-Sayed, an inriguing whistle blower complaint and much more.
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Coming up, we have a lengthy episode that is jam-packed with some really good stuff because Camille Foster is that guy on the internet today. Ari Weitzman has a good guy of the week. We talk about Abdul El-Sayed and some CBS coverage. Loads of grievances. The Iran war is still going on. And a whistleblower complaint that very much got my attention. It is a really good episode.
Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, and welcome to the Suspension the Rules podcast. I am your host, Isaac Saul, joined today by our managing editor, Ari Weitzman, and our editor-at-large, Camille Foster, who is the guy, capital T. He is at large. at large on the internet today. If you haven't logged into X.com, you might not know that Camille is pro-slavery, pro-capitalism. Yikes. He's a racist. And what else, Camille? You know what? Actually, there's been... There's been some interesting dialogue in the wake of your CNN appearance last night. I would say some of it good faith, some of it bad faith. For our audience, which I think predominantly does not watch CNN primetime television. Unless you're coming from CNN,
in which case, welcome. You'll never go back.
Yeah, yeah, then welcome. They may not know what happened. So let's start. I'll play the clip of you on national television to kick us off.
It's one thing to not think capitalism isn't working ideally. It's another thing entirely to insist that it is oppressive, that it is bound up with white supremacy. I've always preferred Adam Smith's description of capitalism as the natural system of liberty, the idea that people can own property, that they can exchange it freely with one another for profit, that they can find ways to put their resources to good use, those private property, and profit in a way that is actually beneficial to everyone else, that there can be gains from trade that are mutually beneficial. These are foundational ideas that have created more wealth than any other system in human history. That is what
capitalism is. That is not white supremacy. Do you think capitalism has always
worked that way? I've just described the actual...
It has not always worked that way.
I've
actually just described the basic facts of economics.
That's the
basic
facts, but that
ain't how
it's always
worked. Slavery is
an
institution that is older than writing. It predates capitalism. The notion that white supremacy and all these other things are bound up with capitalism in an intrinsic and fundamental way is so absurd and laughable.
How is it
absurd? barely needs to be defended. What do you mean it barely needs to be defended? It barely needs to be defended. You actually have to articulate what the connection is. How are these two things the same?
I'm
talking about private property, the right to exchange and sell
it with whomever you like. But you're talking about capitalism in the purest form of how it was intended to work versus how it's actually working. I'm talking about how
it's working right now today.
What
is
the white supremacist dynamic of private property? It's not working. I think that's
This lit the internet on fire a little bit. I woke up this morning and I'm sure it's a little bit of algorithmic bias on my part, but my feed was mostly a lot of people debating the validity of your arguments here. It was certainly a moment, I think. Jameel Hill, who you were talking to, posted some tweets after this exchange, trying to clarify some of her points, which I appreciate. I think everybody should make sure that their argument at least is being well understood. And I think one of the core things that she is arguing is that America was built on this institution of slavery. She said it is how America became a world economic power, the buying and selling of people being tied to the economy.
This is effectively white supremacy since it was a race-based system. Fast forward to other economic policies that were guided by race, like housing and employment. There were rules that prevented Black people from equally participating in the free economy. So yes, capitalism is tied to white supremacy.
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