Suspension of the rules. - The Maine anniversary episode. Isaac, Ari and Kmele reflect on the 25th anniversary of 9/11 and Tangle's 7 year anniversary.
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Coming up, we're in Maine for a team retreat and we're doing an anniversary episode. First, we talk 9-11, the 25th anniversary, a bit of a somber reflection on what happened and where things are. And then we drink a little bit and we cheer up for the seven-year anniversary of Tangle. It is a very good and nostalgic episode. You guys are going to like it.
Gentlemen, the main episode. The main event. I guess we'll call it. Welcome to Suspension of the Rules. I'm Isaac Saul, your host. Wow. I almost committed an incredible party foul to start the show. We're in Maine together in the same room, which is timely. We have two, I would say... anniversaries today that we're going to kind of key in on for today's episode. One somber and one happy. So I think probably most appropriate to start with the somber one, the one that's going to be on everybody's mind this week, which is the September 11th, 9-11, 25th anniversary, which is kind of hard to fathom or imagine. I have thought a lot about the ways to talk about this, you know, entangle on the show. We have a mailbag that's coming out in the newsletter today.
And also we'll do a podcast version of our newsletter on Friday and a podcast version of that too. We got a lot of reader questions about September 11th, including a lot from... audience members who were not alive when 9-11
happened. We're not cognizant. 25's a long time
ago. Sure, yeah. I mean, 25 years ago. I mean, I was only in fifth grade. I'm the youngest one here. So you guys have more vivid memories of it than I do, I'm sure, and of the aftermath. But it's still like, it is like the formative political moment in my life. I mean, now I guess COVID's in there as well. But it's certainly a thing that shaped all the politics that I've experienced and lived through since I was politically conscious. And... One of the questions that really astounded me, which we are having my father answer in the podcast and the newsletter coming out on Friday, was from somebody in, I think from California. And it was a younger reader who wrote in and said, I grew up on the West Coast.
And I was not alive when 9-11 happened. And so for me, this day is basically just like a meme. Like it's like an internet joke that means nothing to
me.
And I was curious if you guys could sort of contextualize what the day was like and what it was actually like living through September 11th, which I thought was, first of all, such a... fantastically earnest question
from like a young,
like just being like, I know that I should care more about this or this day should feel more impactful to me, but like it's literally just a joke to me. And B, like I'm interested in opening my mind and like learning a little bit about that. So I thought maybe that would be an interesting way to start this episode and this show. is if the three of us could talk a little bit about our personal experiences. And I'm most interested in what you guys have to say. So maybe we'll start with you. Camille, you're the elder statesman here. Unfortunately,
you like to keep that as
secret.
Barely,
but... Yeah, I mean, what do you remember about the day and what was it like living through it? I think those are interesting places to start.
Yeah. As you're talking about it, it occurs to me that this is perhaps the only national milestone that has occurred over the course of my lifetime that I routinely think back on, I reflect on. and routinely wonder about other people's reflection of it, especially younger people who don't have kind of an immediate recollection of it or were too young to really know anything about it. It casts this extraordinarily long shadow on U.S. politics. Certainly, I was in undergraduate college I remember it being a beautiful fall day and not really being certain what to do at that point. I'm not sure if I ever got the notification that classes were canceled at University of Maryland. But this was this weird period where I was still living at home with my parents, was commuting to school and was about to move out.
And I remember just driving to campus because I wanted to be with other people.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–5:27
2
What personal memories do the hosts have of the September 11 attacks?
5:27–14:11
3
How did 9/11 change everyday life and national security in the U.S.?
14:11–27:17
4
Why do conspiracy theories about 9/11 persist and how do they spread online?
27:17–40:32
5
How has the post‑9/11 world affected political discourse and media consumption?
40:32–54:19
6
What is the story behind Tangle’s founding and its seven‑year anniversary?
54:19–1:07:35
7
What challenges does Tangle face in growing its audience and product?
1:07:35–1:14:01
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