Kevin and Madison Call Off Their Wedding | "The Adirondacks" with Chris Geere (516)

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What is the episode premise and initial reactions to 'The Adirondacks'?

Unknown 0:01
This is a HeadGum Podcast.
Mandy Moore 0:17
On today's episode of That Was Us, we are diving into Season 5, Episode 16, The Adirondacks. In this Season 5 finale, as Kevin and Madison's wedding day arrives, long-buried doubts, family truths, and questions about what love really looks like come to the surface. While some relationships grow stronger, others are forced to confront whether love alone is really enough.
Chris Sullivan 0:42
What up, gang? I hated everything about this episode.
Mandy Moore 0:45
Are you finishing a cookie over there?
Sterling K. Brown 0:46
I'm finishing a cookie. I was licking my mouth.
Mandy Moore 0:50
Oh, my God.
Chris Sullivan 0:50
Yeah, Mandy got to kicking off the intro thinking that we were ready. Meanwhile, I'm like, oh, God.
Mandy Moore 0:58
Guys, we just watched this episode.
Chris Sullivan 1:01
Yeah.
Mandy Moore 1:02
I watched it last night.
Chris Sullivan 1:03
Season five.
Sterling K. Brown 1:04
Me too.
Mandy Moore 1:04
Season five.
Sterling K. Brown 1:05
Me too. There's this thing that happens at the end of episodes sometimes where That's very sad. And I guess like, maybe the sadness is something that leaves people on the hook for to see like, how do you- It's like, this is us, it's like, enjoy your hiatus.
Mandy Moore 1:20
Have a great summer.
Chris Sullivan 1:22
Have a good summer. We'll see you next fall.
Sterling K. Brown 1:24
And here's the thing, like, the whole time I'm watching it, because I know what's going to happen, and I'm sort of finding myself wishing I was like, oh, could it have gone another way? Is there any way that this could have been? But I think it had to be what it has to be. Like, drama requires conflict, right? You know, and hair with it. And sometimes people will be like, oh, I wish they would just get along. And you say that, but then it would be a boring show.
Chris Sullivan 1:46
It would be. It would be. Then it just becomes, I don't know, HGTV.
Sterling K. Brown 1:51
But there is something about like, so we get some backstory in this episode and we'll go through it all in one time. But like, we have a couple of flashbacks from Madison, right?
Mandy Moore 2:02
That sort of like give her- Illuminate a bit of a- The bigger picture as to her relationship with her parents.
Sterling K. Brown 2:10
Yeah, because there's a mom and a dad, and then there's also an ex-boyfriend.
Mandy Moore 2:15
Yeah. We see the mom leaving in one flashback.
Sterling K. Brown 2:18
See the mom leaving.
Mandy Moore 2:19
We see the dad telling Madison, like, don't be picky with, you know, like, are you going to the school dance? Like, just go with whoever's. Just take what you can get. Yeah, whoever wants to take you.
Bruno Satin 2:31
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mandy Moore 2:32
Go in that direction. And then the ex-boyfriend kind of breaking up with her and being like, we're really just meant to be friends. And her feeling otherwise. It's just like rejection after rejection after rejection. And the story being... you are not good enough. You have no value to all three of these people. This continues to be the story that I'm sure she tells herself. And it sort of coincides with her wedding day, with like, what should be the most... important day of her life thus far, minus probably having the children, obviously. Joyful, yeah. Yeah, and I think it's sort of illuminating the doubts, the deep-seated doubts that a lesser evolved human would probably not think to have. Yeah. And it just made me not to, I mean, sorry, we're like taking off now with a bullet, but like, it made me really realize and think back to the evolution of this character in particular.
Mandy Moore 3:39
And we even see in this particular episode, so the day this ex-boyfriend in this flashback breaks up with her.
Bruno Satin 3:45
Right.
Mandy Moore 3:46
she immediately starts binging, going on like a binge, and then it sort of leads her into being in this recovery group for Overeaters Anonymous or whatever we're saying, where she ends up meeting Kate. And to think back on who that woman was when we first met her in the pilot and how we all kind of like rolled her eyes as the collective in the room did, like, what is this woman have any business doing in this room with us? to where she is in this particular episode is really astounding and is a testament to Kate as an actress and the writing and where they've sort of allowed this character to grow that we all, you know, love her and are rooting for her and by extension are rooting for her and Kevin and their family to sort of see themselves into this next chapter of their lives.

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