Laurel's Story | "Birth Mother" with Writer Kay Oyegun (506)
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On today's episode of That Was Us, we're diving into Season 5, Episode 6, Birth Mother. This episode uncovers the long-buried story of Randall's birth mother, Laurel. Randall and Beth's journey to New Orleans reveals inherited grief, unfinished love, and through High's retelling of his love story with Laurel, Randall releases the pain he's carried his entire life. Sully, Mandy. Hello. How's it going, gang? Oh, well, how are you guys? It's a special episode. It's a really beautiful episode.
It's a really beautiful episode of television.
We're going to get a chance later on in this episode to talk to the writer-director, which rarely happens for an episode of television.
Correct.
Right? Kay Oyegun, who is one of my favorite, favorite, favorite people who's been with our show from beginning to end.
From the beginning.
About to be one of everybody's.
Yeah, she's so special.
She's absolutely wonderful. And sort of like this episode, because it's one of those things that I don't think a lot of people saw coming because if Randall is functioning as audience with regards to his story, like everybody knows that like Randall's mom died after childbirth or whatnot. You know, his dad took him to the, was overwhelmed because he was using as well, took him to the fire station and that's when life begins. Yes. But at the beginning of this season, At the end of episode one of this season. Yeah, it's 501. We saw that. We see.
How does Randall's journey to New Orleans unfold?
We got to love a good, hard, deep breath from death. Into blackout. Do you know what I'm saying? It's just like, you're down, and now I'm not. And you're like, ow, snap, crackle, pop. Rice Krispies? That is Rice Krispies. Thank you very much.
And this episode opens with Beth and Randall in New Orleans. So it's kind of like a direct... jump from their conversation in episode 505 with Hai, where he's like, you know, I would love to show you where she lived and what she loved, like here in New Orleans. And they kind of are like, what's stopping us? Let's go.
I also have to say, just on a personal note, I don't know how you guys feel. It's one of my favorite cities in the United States.
Oh, same.
What insights does Kay Oyegun share about writing for This Is Us?
I think it doesn't, there's no place that has the same sort of historical significance, pride in culture, music, architecture, food, dance. Like it has its own unique stamp unlike any other city.
The only major city in the country that I have never been to.
What?
Can you believe it?
Can you believe it? I'm about to.
It feels like I should have lived there for five or six years. Correct.
Can we go there? Let's go there.
Can we go together?
Family vacation. Christopher James Sullivan.
What's your middle name? Joseph. That was close.
Christopher Joseph. Christopher Joseph Sullivan.
Never. It's crazy. It's crazy to me. It's your city. It's crazy to me.
How does the episode explore themes of inherited grief?
It is your city. It's your city, bro. Like, also, just, like, we need to go on just, like, a foodie binge.
I know, I know. One of the great foodie places.
Oh, yeah, maybe Thee in the country, I think.
Quite possibly. Maybe we do a live show there.
Maybe. Let's see how this one goes.
Well, the first one always was great.
Oh, sorry, sorry.
Spoiler alert, we're doing it this weekend.
It was amazing.
Amazing. No, that truly is amazing to me.
I know.
It shocks me too. It shocks me too. And honestly, one of the great sadnesses was because we'd already gone so many different places during the course of the show, right? Whether it's Vietnam, D.C. for young Randall to visit Howard University, Las Vegas for us, New York, et cetera. Like, We going to NOLA. Pittsburgh.
We didn't go to Pittsburgh. We didn't go to Pittsburgh. I always wanted to.
We were supposed to. We never actually did. We didn't go to Philadelphia. Maybe we do a live show there.
Yeah.
Well, the first two are already wonderful.
The first two are wonderful.
I feel a tour coming up. I also pitched Dan the idea of the Pearsons having a family vacation. I'm like, look, modern family, they went to Hawaii. Why can't we go to Hawaii?
It's not a bad idea. I think the closest thing that came to that was Kate's- Was the pool.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:01–1:44
2
How does Randall's journey to New Orleans unfold?
1:44–2:24
3
What insights does Kay Oyegun share about writing for This Is Us?
2:24–3:05
4
How does the episode explore themes of inherited grief?
3:05–4:21
5
What challenges did the writers face in portraying Laurel's story?
4:21–5:20
6
How does the episode depict the relationship between Laurel and Hai?
5:20–7:31
7
What role does the setting of New Orleans play in the narrative?
7:31–9:41
8
What final reflections do the hosts share about the episode's impact?
9:41–1:27:18