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That Was Us

Parenting Woes | "I've Got This" (510)

21 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What themes are explored in 'I've Got This' episode?

1.887 - 12.1 Chris Sullivan

This is a HeadGum Podcast.

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17.446 - 41.175 Sterling K. Brown

On today's episode of That Was Us, we're diving into Season 5, Episode 10, I've Got This. As life with newborns sets in, the Pearsons confront pride, money, and the pressure to hold it all together. Kevin wrestles with what it means to provide, Kate and Toby face hard truths, and Randall and Beth manage the growing pains of a full house.

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42.404 - 46.871 Mandy Moore

Hello, hello. What's going on, y'all? Hello. Here we are. Here we are.

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46.891 - 71.817 Unknown

We're officially on the back half. Well, this season was only 16 episodes, right? That's right. So we've been on the back half for a second. Yeah, I dig it. There's a lot going on. This is the tension. There's a lot of things. What's foremost in my mind right now is the dinner between the Kate and Kevin and Toby and Madison and how that whole thing plays out.

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71.837 - 103.215 Unknown

There's a lot of stuff else that happens, but like there is a musculature to Tobias that I think we haven't seen maybe up to this point or maybe just fleetingly, but like just... the pressure that men put on themselves, that society places on them to be provider and just sort of like two different providers with very different perspectives on what it means to do so. It's intense. Yeah.

103.235 - 108.74 Unknown

It's intense. I don't want to jump around because we'll get to it when we get to it. So you guys tell me where we're going to start with this joint.

108.76 - 130.66 Chris Sullivan

Where should we start? I mean, it kind of, the episode starts with sort of a montage, right? Of like giving babies baths and changing them and feeding them. I mean, it's like, it's Kevin and Madison. It's Toby and Kate. It's Jack and Rebecca. And all sort of with this beautiful song called How Lucky Can One Man Get, right? That's right. It's like Kurt Weill featuring John Prine.

130.68 - 131.941 Sterling K. Brown

Another John Prine song.

131.981 - 132.081 Chris Sullivan

Yeah.

Chapter 2: How do Kevin and Madison navigate new parenthood?

215.573 - 223.046 Sterling K. Brown

But the bubbles were growing a little bit. Starting to grow a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. So do we want to start at... Whose house do we want to start at?

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223.066 - 234.948 Chris Sullivan

Well, we could start with Kevin and Madison and the fact that, like, yes, they want to... They agree to have this dinner with Toby and Kate. And... Gosh, I'm trying to see where they converge exactly.

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234.988 - 237.492 Unknown

Kind of have to go back and forth between the two a little bit, right?

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237.512 - 250.257 Chris Sullivan

Kind of, because Kate and Toby, we see Kate, she's coming out of, I believe this is the first time that we've seen her at this school for the blind, this musical, this music school for the blind.

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250.321 - 252.785 Unknown

They say something about like, we've missed you.

252.805 - 256.031 Chris Sullivan

Yeah, exactly. It's strange because I'm like, wait, where are we? What is this?

256.051 - 266.829 Sterling K. Brown

So is it a time cut? Is it like, because she says in the last episode that the school needs a teacher's assistant.

266.849 - 272.278 Chris Sullivan

Remember in the last episode? Yeah, but I just don't, I'm just racking my brain like, have we seen her there before?

272.258 - 281.009 Unknown

I think so, because earlier in the season, didn't you guys go together, or you were resistant to go? Or is that another thing? It was a music class.

Chapter 3: What challenges does Toby face in this episode?

351.062 - 361.958 Unknown

My man, like a champ, has got his baby off to his side. He's got an iron rod. Hooked up to the stroller or to the baby chair. Yeah, golf club. Rocking the baby at the same time.

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361.978 - 370.333 Chris Sullivan

He is in a, I guess, like a suit, half of his suit up top, nothing on the bottom.

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370.353 - 372.858 Unknown

His suit and tie, but he's poo bearing it too.

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373.439 - 374.882 Mandy Moore

I was going to say porky pig, right?

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374.902 - 377.106 Unknown

Yeah.

377.086 - 380.009 Mandy Moore

But, so, like, all tops, no bottoms.

380.369 - 382.331 Sterling K. Brown

Yeah, he's got, like, jacket, tie.

382.551 - 389.397 Mandy Moore

Yeah, jacket, tie. And poor guy has, like, a whole backdrop behind him that just, like, crashes down.

389.437 - 403.851 Unknown

This was masterful, too. So it was like, so that happened. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I can't do anything about it. But it all fell apart. And it just sort of, like, leads, like, let's get real. I've done about 30 of these things. Nothing's panned out. Do I have a shot at this gig?

Chapter 4: How does Kate reflect on her childhood with Rebecca?

486.069 - 486.169 Chris Sullivan

Bull.

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486.149 - 498.464 Unknown

There's also just like this really interesting contrast going on in terms of like, Kev's got a butt ton of gifts. He's getting gifts from Glenn Close. He's getting gifts from- Wubba Nubs.

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498.484 - 505.732 Mandy Moore

I was like, Glenn, please. Those are pacifiers. Okay. You can step up your gifts game a little bit more.

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506.013 - 507.955 Sterling K. Brown

Tiffany's has silver spoons, please.

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508.475 - 533.453 Unknown

He's got, and then, but like the, what, piece de resistance is the couple of Cohibas that he got from Leonardo DiCaprio's manager. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, man, let's go ahead and do these Cohibas, right? And it's interesting because Kev, it's an interesting thing because I think when you're at a certain place in life, you get a chance to dream. And when you're not in that place

533.703 - 544.841 Unknown

dreams are hard to like conceive of. You have to survive. Survive. And so you're dealing with a couple that is in survival, right? Because of that loss of job that has just happened.

544.861 - 546.243 Chris Sullivan

And the unknown future.

546.363 - 558.563 Unknown

An unknown future versus someone who's in a very comfortable place and is really just sort of like wondering like, what is it all going to look like? And like innocently, not even meanly, but innocent, right? Yeah.

558.543 - 560.125 Chris Sullivan

There's no ego about it.

Chapter 5: What family dynamics are highlighted with Randall and Beth?

721.606 - 735.488 Sterling K. Brown

Because I said, he's going to be smoking a cigar, and it's an underground boxing thing, and he's coaching this guy, and he's all sweaty and smoky. And I just, you know, it's one of those lessons, one of those acting lessons. Don't brush your teeth.

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735.568 - 738.613 Mandy Moore

Don't brush your teeth. With real toothpaste.

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738.693 - 757.158 Sterling K. Brown

If you're going to smoke a cigar, you're going to be smoking a lot of cigars. How did you feel? I was green. I was green. Okay. Yeah. I won't ever do it again. That was it. I think I almost learned a similar lesson during this dinner when they provided sushi. Did you kill the sushi?

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757.219 - 758.881 Mandy Moore

Did you partake?

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759.081 - 760.323 Sterling K. Brown

Yes.

761.885 - 765.87 Mandy Moore

You partook. Come on. Was it good sushi? It was good sushi. It looked good.

765.89 - 778.477 Sterling K. Brown

It was really good sushi. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is the problem. If they had like gone low, like, no, but it was like, I'm not kidding. I think it was like, I don't want to say it was from like, not Noma, but... Sushi Nobu?

778.637 - 779.158 Chris Sullivan

Like Nobu?

780.08 - 785.79 Sterling K. Brown

I think it might have actually been Nobu. It looked very fancy. And so I was like, well, then I'm eating this.

Chapter 6: How does Tess's relationship with Alex evolve?

854.522 - 876.456 Chris Sullivan

Yeah. But I mean, but also like nerds and like, like, like candy, candy. Milo and I would reserve it. We would, we would have like a look between us when it was like, is it time? It's time. And we would know, that would be like our acknowledgement that we both needed a little sugar pick-me-up. And that's when we would go treat ourselves and get a little candy.

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876.757 - 880.341 Chris Sullivan

It was very few and far between times.

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880.722 - 887.471 Unknown

But the face that you gave to him during the scene was very good and appropriate for where you were in your journey.

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887.732 - 892.821 Sterling K. Brown

And essentially telling him, I don't think that's... Gonna work. Right.

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893.021 - 895.57 Mandy Moore

I don't like Malibu. Right.

895.59 - 900.366 Sterling K. Brown

And he's still not reading the rumors. Like, yeah, we don't want him to grow up and be stoner surfers.

900.548 - 902.39 Chris Sullivan

Like, no, that's not what I was talking about.

902.41 - 903.532 Sterling K. Brown

That's not what I was talking about.

904.052 - 915.507 Unknown

Gang, I was looking at my calendar the other day and realized how many trips just sneak up on us. Not big vacations, just work travel, family weekends, quick getaways that add up faster than you expect.

Chapter 7: What reconciliation occurs between Beth and Carol?

1041.252 - 1042.214 Chris Sullivan

Yeah, sushi comes.

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1042.234 - 1046.765 Sterling K. Brown

Also, real quick backtrack. Go ahead. Didn't we all think that Toby owned that company?

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1047.506 - 1047.847 Mandy Moore

I didn't.

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1047.867 - 1052.999 Sterling K. Brown

That he worked for? At one point in time. It was like IT Solutions or something. Like he was the boss.

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1053.039 - 1054.603 Unknown

There was something like that.

1054.583 - 1063.942 Sterling K. Brown

Or at least he was a high man. He was telling people what to do at his job. And then when he got fired, I was like, hey, wait a minute.

1063.982 - 1068.412 Unknown

The company dissolved. Riders needed to set something up for the future.

1068.472 - 1070.777 Mandy Moore

Yeah, you were number three and it just wasn't.

1070.797 - 1094.484 Unknown

Yeah, you got fired. Yeah, yeah, yeah. At one point in time, Madison has to excuse herself from the table because she's lactating and gets up and going. And they're talking about like, oh, don't you guys have what's what's the toy? The thing that's new. Yeah. And he's like, well, we actually rented, Toby and Kate, we rented the first one for our boy.

Chapter 8: How does the episode conclude with Nicky's arrival?

1197.794 - 1197.995 Unknown

Yeah.

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1198.616 - 1199.177 Sterling K. Brown

Did you tell him?

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1199.657 - 1202.001 Chris Sullivan

And Kate's like, kind of doesn't say anything.

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1202.141 - 1208.97 Sterling K. Brown

Yeah. Yeah. Tell me what? And he essentially accidentally blows up his own spot.

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1209.01 - 1212.074 Unknown

Yeah, you say that you lost your job and things aren't great and whatnot.

1212.094 - 1217.5 Chris Sullivan

And Cade was like, but the good part is he already interviewed for another job and he was just waiting to- No, I don't.

1218.22 - 1218.441 Sterling K. Brown

Nope.

1218.861 - 1219.722 Chris Sullivan

Didn't get that either.

1219.922 - 1224.507 Sterling K. Brown

Nope, sorry. So thanks everybody. This sushi's great though.

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