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That Was Us

The Big Three Hit Puberty | "Changes" (503)

17 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What emotional changes are the Pearson family facing in this episode?

0.993 - 30.865 Sterling K. Brown

On today's episode of That Was Us, we are diving into season five, episode three, Changes. The Pearson family is pushed in new emotional directions. Randall navigates big shifts with Tess, Kevin and Madison confront some hard truths, and Kate and Toby take a meaningful step towards adoption. Meanwhile, new characters reveal there's more to Laurel's story.

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Chapter 2: How do new characters impact Laurel's story?

33.207 - 33.728 Chris Sullivan

What up, y'all?

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34.028 - 37.192 Unknown

What up? Ch-ch-ch-changes.

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37.552 - 55.553 Chris Sullivan

A lot of changes. A lot of things that I didn't remember until I saw it. You know what I'm saying? The opening of the episode, I was like, oh, wow. I love it when he does... Sometimes I just saw Dan the other day and grabbing a drink or whatnot, and he was giving me a paradise pitch.

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56.157 - 60.423 Sterling K. Brown

He loves a pitch. He loves to corner you. He's really good at it.

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Chapter 3: What challenges do Randall, Kevin, and Kate face in their relationships?

60.443 - 69.255 Sterling K. Brown

I mean, he is the ultimate pitcher, but he does love to corner you. Would he do this for you guys during the course of the show? Totally. Like you'd see him at an event or something, he'd be like, oh, wait.

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69.355 - 69.875 Chris Sullivan

Here's the thing.

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70.276 - 70.716 Sterling K. Brown

Exactly.

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70.897 - 78.667 Chris Sullivan

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He'd come up to you and he's like, so check this out. What do you think, how do you think Ronald feel about being gay? And I'd be like, huh?

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78.687 - 81.01 Sterling K. Brown

Yeah, you're like, wait, what's the context?

81.03 - 85.814 Chris Sullivan

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, trust me, it's going to work out. It's going to be great.

85.974 - 97.171 Sterling K. Brown

I was like, okay. You're right. He's excellent at it. But I could just imagine what the writer's room was with these particular ideas of like, wow, this is a big swing.

97.652 - 118.792 Chris Sullivan

But here we go. He has a way of like, what is it? He throws people that we've never seen at all. Whatsoever. Right. But now the audience has been schooled. So now the audience is just waiting. Right? Because we've done it enough times. We're like, all right, who is this Asian man and his granddaughter?

118.872 - 123.762 Unknown

Because the episode opens on a grandfather and granddaughter fishing. They're going fishing.

Chapter 4: How is the theme of body image addressed in the episode?

143.803 - 144.884 Chris Sullivan

How are they related?

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144.964 - 146.505 Sterling K. Brown

How are they related to the Pearsons?

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146.605 - 151.911 Chris Sullivan

Yeah. Yeah. It's good. So changes. Everybody's going through a lot of stuff.

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151.951 - 158.917 Sterling K. Brown

Which one do we... Do you want to just finish this sort of fishing situation? Or no, you want to go to Jack and Rebecca, the pediatrician with the teens?

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158.937 - 162.861 Chris Sullivan

I want to do the fishing, but then I like the reveal last.

162.881 - 166.264 Sterling K. Brown

Okay, okay, okay. So we could go to Jack and Rebecca, the pediatrician.

166.404 - 166.945 Chris Sullivan

Okay, cool, cool, cool.

166.925 - 174.686 Sterling K. Brown

with the teenagers, all three of them are going through puberty at the same time, which is like walloping mom and dad. No.

174.746 - 179.719 Chris Sullivan

New doctor. You guys, I have a 14 year old. I can't imagine having three.

Chapter 5: What insights do the hosts share about body image and pressure?

2489.829 - 2491.07 Unknown

Shirtless scene, yeah.

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2491.09 - 2497.296 Chris Sullivan

But it's, yeah, it can get in your head. I think Mandy Moore is the only person that has it got figured out because she just climbs mountains.

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2497.536 - 2503.922 Mandy Moore

She's a beast. I don't climb. I have not climbed mountains in years. I would love to get back to that. You climbed a mountain since you've been a mama? One.

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2504.142 - 2504.723 Chris Sullivan

You climbed one?

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Chapter 6: How do the hosts prepare for intimate scenes on set?

2505.023 - 2507.225 Sterling K. Brown

One. I'm ready to get back out in the world.

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2507.545 - 2508.486 Chris Sullivan

I can see you are.

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2508.546 - 2531.866 Sterling K. Brown

Look at that dress. Come on now, mama. But I... Yeah, I mean, I think it's not different for men and women. There's incredible pressure on women. I feel like I just haven't, maybe because I've been doing this since I was a kid or something, but I just haven't felt that same pressure. Or I don't push that same pressure on myself.

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Chapter 7: What challenges does Randall face in finding a new therapist?

2532.127 - 2532.988 Chris Sullivan

God bless you.

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2532.968 - 2544.42 Sterling K. Brown

Yeah. I don't know. And I've been this size and that size and, you know, weight has fluctuated over the years. Yeah. And it's never really, it's never been something that's bothered me.

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2544.7 - 2545.041 Unknown

Yeah.

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2545.381 - 2551.127 Sterling K. Brown

Personally. Right. But I do understand that, yeah, the pressure is undeniable.

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Chapter 8: How does the episode address themes of adoption and family dynamics?

2551.467 - 2560.397 Sterling K. Brown

Yeah, absolutely. But, yeah, I don't think about that. Well, maybe because, like, I'm not doing sex scenes, so, or shirtless scenes or, you know what I mean?

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2560.417 - 2566.427 Chris Sullivan

You and Milo had shower scenes. You... Before there was ever any paradise. You know what I will say?

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2566.447 - 2577.169 Sterling K. Brown

There's candles in the shower. Yeah, but this is NBC, not Hulu. I will say the one thing that I do think about if I'm going to be showing a little bit of skin is a tan.

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2578.391 - 2579.133 Chris Sullivan

Okay.

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2579.153 - 2580.375 Sterling K. Brown

We all look good with a little color.

2580.455 - 2582.179 Chris Sullivan

That's something I think about. I hear you.

2582.918 - 2592.611 Sterling K. Brown

Listen, when you're pasty pale like me. Come on, Orlando. You ain't pasty. I'm pasty. I'm pasty. I'm sun damaged. It's December.

2592.631 - 2594.835 Unknown

I'm multiple different shades of sun damaged.

2594.895 - 2595.576 Chris Sullivan

Playing tennis.

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