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Ep. 2369 - Rubio SHINES in Europe, AOC Collapses!

17 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What did Marco Rubio say at the Munich Security Conference?

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Secretary of State Marco Rubio goes to Munich and delivers a speech for the ages. AOC goes to Munich and makes a complete ass of herself. And Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, they're back trying to guide their party. We'll see how it went.

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Chapter 2: How did AOC perform at the Munich Security Conference?

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First, we're not supposed to pick favorites. Too bad. Everyone who has seen the Pendragon cycle, Rise of the Merlins, has episode six is the one.

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Chapter 3: What are the historical ties between the U.S. and Europe?

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The battles are insane. The scope is massive on Thursday. Only on Daily Wire Plus. On Saturday, Secretary of State Marco Rubio went to the Munich Security Conference over in Germany. It was attended by a wide variety of politicos, both from the Trump administration and, as we'll see, from the Democratic side of the aisle. And he was the adult in the room.

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Marco Rubio is the best spoken member of the Trump administration. It doesn't happen to be particularly close when it comes to foreign policy. And he gave a truly bang up speech about the relationship between America and Europe. So you'll recall that last year, J.D. Vance, vice president, he also went to Europe. And at Davos, he proceeded to give a speech blistering the Europeans.

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Some for good reasons, some for not such great reasons, but it appeared to draw the hackles of a bunch of Europeans because it was basically saying, guys, you seem to be kind of on your own. America is drawing back. And that is not what Rubio said. What Rubio said is we have strong bonds, centuries long bonds with the continent of Europe and many of the countries thereupon.

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And we also are going to have common interests with those countries, but we need strong allies to stand up for themselves. And he actually attempted to draw a definition of what it meant to be in consonance with Europe that I think Vice President Vance in some ways failed to advance.

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Secretary of State Rubio received a standing ovation for this, which of course is a good thing because his defense of the Trump administration policy was quite muscular over at the Munich Security Conference. So he did a bit of a Q&A as well. He shared his own family history.

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And one of the things that people tend to forget is that, for example, Latinos and Hispanics in the United States are of Spanish, at least in part, descent. Spain is a country that is on the continent of Europe, which is why people from South and Latin America generally speak Spanish. It is why, as we will also see from Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, there are horses on this continent.

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In any case, here was Secretary of State Rubio talking about his own family history.

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The year that my country was founded, Lorenzo and Catalina Giraldi lived in Casao Monferrato in the kingdom of Piedmont, Sardinia. And Jose and Manuela Reyna lived in Sevilla, Spain. I don't know what, if anything, they knew about the 13 colonies which had gained their independence from the British Empire. But here's what I'm certain of. They could have never imagined that 250 years later,

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One of their direct descendants would be back here today on this continent as the chief diplomat of that infant nation. And yet here I am, reminded by my own story that both our histories and our fates will always be linked.

Chapter 4: What challenges does Europe face according to Rubio?

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and Europe have a great history of cooperation. And in a bit, I want to explain sort of the history of European identification, because one of the things that the Secretary of State says is that people don't fight for ideas. That's not really quite true. People definitely fight for ideas, but those ideas do have to be rooted in a time and a place and in a loyalty to family and kinship and nation.

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Anyway, here was Secretary of State Rubio talking about the history of U.S.-European cooperation.

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231.37 - 253.076 Marco Rubio

Together, we rebuilt a shattered continent in the wake of two devastating world wars. When we found ourselves divided once again by the Iron Curtain, the Free West linked arms with the courageous dissidents struggling against tyranny in the East to defeat Soviet communism. We have fought against each other, then reconciled, then fought, then reconciled again.

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And we have bled and died side by side on battlefields. from Kapyong to Kandahar.

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The Secretary of State went on to explain that a U.S.-European alliance should be growing and building and burgeoning and ruling the new century.

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Together, we can re-industrialize our economies and rebuild our capacity to defend our people. But the work of this new alliance should not be focused just on military cooperation and reclaiming the industries of the past.

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It should also be focused on together advancing our mutual interests and new frontiers, unshackling our ingenuity, our creativity and the dynamic spirit to build a new Western century.

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Now, what Rubio said there is that we definitely need strong allies, that it can't just be the United States picking up the check for everybody else. You can't build gigantic welfare states on the back of American taxpayers. You need to be strong because strong alliances require strong allies. And those strong allies are capable of providing deterrence against, for example, a wayward Russia.

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Here was the Secretary of State.

Chapter 5: What is the significance of shared values in U.S.-European relations?

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Okay, so the question is, what are the ideas that unite that civilization? So he says armies don't fight for abstractions. I beg to differ somewhat. Obviously, armies do fight for abstractions. There are armies that have fought for communism. There are armies that fight for Islamic fundamentalism. There are armies that have fought for Catholicism and for Protestantism.

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There are armies all over the world that fight for ideas. The question is, what are the ideas of Western civilization that are worth upholding and preserving? Because if you don't know what it is you are defending, it is very difficult to fight for it. So here is how he characterized civilization. He said... For the United States and Europe, we belong together.

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America was founded 250 years ago, but the roots began here on this continent long before. The man who settled and built the nation of my birth arrived on our shores, carrying the memories and the traditions and the Christian faith of their ancestors as a sacred inheritance, an unbreakable link between the old world and the new. We are part of one civilization, Western civilization.

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We're bound to one another by the deepest bonds that nations could share, forged by centuries of shared history, Christian faith, culture, heritage, language, ancestry, and the sacrifices our forefathers made together for the common civilization to which we have fallen heir.

Chapter 6: How did the Democrats react to Rubio's speech?

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And yes, democracy. And small are republicanism. This is one reason among many that Russia has never quite ever entered the world of Europe. It has always sort of existed on the fringes of Europe, but... As Vladimir Putin's brain, Alexander Dugin, has explained, European ideas, or what he calls Atlanticist ideas, are not, in fact, Russian ideas.

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It's a very different set of things, and that's why trying to integrate the Russian Empire into Europe has always been a failed experiment. What does this mean? Well, it means, number one, that Europe needs to uphold its own values. It means the United States needs to uphold its own values, and it needs to understand, we all need to understand, that a shared history and a shared culture

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experience, and a shared set of values are all necessary in order to have an increasingly powerful alliance. The Secretary of State Rubio, again, for laying this out, received a standing ovation in Munich, which is a very different response than the Vice President received. Again, the Vice President came in with a two by four and started clocking people.

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Secretary of State Rubio came in and he said, listen, here's all the things that we share. And also you need to actually strengthen yourselves. You need to not empty yourselves out because of dumb environmental regulations or through mass migration. or through bad trade deals. Here is the Secretary of State receiving a standing ovation.

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Again, for all those who seem to believe that the Trump administration has offended all of our European allies beyond recognition that there's no future there, that obviously is not true.

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You need a well-spoken advocate of that relationship and a realist advocate of that relationship, not some sort of pie-in-the-sky Wilsonian dreamer who believes that America ought to foot the bills for our allies such that, again, they can slip into quietude and senescence, they can slip into old age. into the welfare state decay into which they have slipped endlessly.

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And we'll continue to foot the bill. That is not real. What Rubio did there is he bucked up Europe. He encouraged them.

Chapter 7: What criticisms did AOC face during her speech?

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He said, listen, you can be great again. We can help make you great again. We want to sit alongside you and hold hands and walk forward into the future together. He said that he said, quote, I'm here today to leave it clear that America is charting the path for a new century of prosperity. And that once again, we want to do it together with you, our cherished allies and our oldest friends.

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We want to do it together with you, with a Europe that is proud of its heritage and of its history, with a Europe that has the spirit of creation of liberty that sent ships out into uncharted seas and birthed our civilization, with a Europe that has the means to defend itself and the will to survive. And that is the proper conclusion, of course.

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So again, this is the right approach for the Trump administration to take. It is a big difference between, there are differences inside the Trump administration. Okay, trying to pretend there are not is, I think, foolhardy.

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Elbridge Colby, who's the Pentagon Undersecretary for Policy and more aligned with the Vance Wing of the Republican Party, told attendees in Munich that he is not sure that the one-time, quote, hosannas and shibboleths about shared values between Europe and the U.S. are true. Like, that is, That is some dicey stuff right there.

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If you wish to build alliance with people with whom you have historically had alliance, then you ought to look to shared values. On the other hand, you don't want it to be that the sort of nostrum of shared values substitutes for actual real shared values. Because then you end up with people who are living high off the hog while you foot the bills. On the other hand,

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You don't want to break the chain of shared values with Europe, because if you do that, then you end up in an isolationist position without any allies. It's a fascinating gap inside the Trump administration. I think that there's no question from my perspective that the Secretary of State has the best of it. And I think that is why you saw him get such a warm reception there.

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Now, that is a very different vision for the world than the world presented by the left. The left showed up en masse. The American left showed up en masse in Munich. And there they presented a different vision of quote-unquote world order.

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And that world order is a West that is apologetic for its own existence, that believes that it has committed grave evils, unrectifiable evils, and that all the evils of the rest of the world are somehow to be laid at the foot of the West.

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That actually what the West ought to do is become sort of a repository for anyone who wants to come in and subsume its own values under the rubric of multiculturalism. The New York Times took this position, quote, There's an Afghan grocery store on the blocks outside the main train station in Munich. Halal food counters are sprinkled amid the cathedral spires and beer halls.

Chapter 8: What are the implications of mass migration discussed in this episode?

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But of course, she's done this before. You can recall that one time when she interviewed with Margaret Hoover and she was asked about Israel and the Palestinians and she did the exact same thing. She doesn't know things, okay? She doesn't. She doesn't read books. She doesn't study. She is not particularly smart. This is our politics now. Dumb people who are good on TikTok.

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This is our politics now. Congrats to everybody. You did great. Also, by the way, apparently the reason the United States went after Nicolas Maduro is because Venezuela is below the equator. Oh, wait. It isn't.

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You know, we look at what happened in Venezuela, for example. It is not a... It is not a remark on who Maduro was as a leader. He canceled elections. He was an anti-democratic leader. That doesn't mean that we can kidnap a head of state and engage in acts of war just because the nation is below the equator. And...

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It's not below the equator. Also, it's not an act of war to capture a person who is a criminal and bring him back to the United States. We are not at war with Venezuela. We are currently working hand in glove with the Venezuelan government, actually. All of this, of course, was secondary to the actual stupidity, which was the big statement from her.

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The big statement from her is that, again, America, Europe, these are negative forces in the world. They are exploitive. They are capitalistic. And this means that they are bad. Here she explained that whiteness is an imaginary thing. Now, there's a complexity here that could theoretically be explored, but not the way she's doing it.

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There's a very big difference between whiteness and national, like your actual culture, right? Whiteness is an imaginary thing.

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Like, whoa, like, um, like, eh, like, eh. Hey, by the way, if we're going to do that, then there is no such thing as Latino-ness because it turns out that there are a bunch of different variations there. It turns out that people from Cuba, not exactly the same as people from Puerto Rico, not exactly the same as people from Argentina or from Venezuela or from Peru. What point?

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Why is it only whiteness is not a thing? Blackness is a thing, even though, again, great variation in the so-called black community. I say so-called because a Nigerian American who got here 20 years ago is not exactly from the same group of people as American descendants of slaves, which is why we have a term, ADAS, American Descendants of Slaves.

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Whatever, trying to delve into the depths of Alexander Ocasio-Cortez's thought is like trying to jump from a diving board into a kiddie pool. Head first. You are likely to crack your neck. But in the end, AOC only wants a world order without hypocrisies.

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