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The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2452 - Mamdani the Kingmaker

24 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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The communist America-hating revolution is incoming. It's already here. Last night, the New York congressional primaries turned third-worldest America-hating New York mayor Zoran Mamdani into an electoral kingmaker. A series of his endorsed candidates defeated very liberal Democrats and replaced them with outright communists. Terrorists, endorsers, fans of criminality, America haters.

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According to these victorious candidates, America is a settler, colonial, genocidal, racist, fundamentally evil country. That is now the moral litmus test for the new Democratic Party. You must despise America. You must hate everything America stands for. These candidates make Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi look like right wing American patriots.

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Now, you might think that because this is all happening in New York, it doesn't really affect you. wrong. We'll get into exactly what these champagne commies believe, why you shouldn't dismiss their ascendancy in Washington, D.C., and what comes next for an America where one major party openly hates the country. Folks, the Democratic Party of your parents is gone.

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Heck, the Democratic Party of 10 years ago is gone. It is being eaten alive by people who openly hate America, openly hate America. Again, these are not people who are hiding the ball. These revolutionaries openly advocate for abolishing all prisons. Like, yes, all prisons, abolishing prisons, abolishing ICE, abolishing our entire Department of Defense.

Chapter 2: What is the significance of Zoran Mamdani's rise in New York politics?

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It is aimed directly at 12 to 30-year-olds. It's a TikTok indoctrination campaign. This is not a political game for this election cycle alone. This is how you turn a minority part of the Democratic Party, so Bernie Sanders' psychotic wing, into the controlling faction of the Democratic Party.

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You start off by saying that there is a silent majority that supports you, and then you get very loud online, and even louder, you win a couple of primaries, you claim that you have the momentum, and momentum is the name of the game. These folks are playing for a full-scale revolution among people too young to know better and too impressionable to understand that reality exists offline.

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So step two is, again, you claim victory. Step three is you cow the moderates. This is where you threaten everybody who's a normal leftist that you'll come for them too. And then you let them cave to you. You make them feel like they are insufficiently committed to the cause. Again, this has a long history. Dostoevsky predicted this in a book called The Demons or The Possessed.

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Revolutionary characters in that book who are supposed to be precursors to the communists, they muse about the possibility of cutting off 100 million heads. And one of the radicals says that it wouldn't be hard to convince normal liberals to go along with them. He says, I could make them go through fire. One only has to dent it into them. They're not advanced enough.

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Again, the idea is that Zoran Mamdani is a thought leader. Bernie Sanders is a thought leader. Chevalier is a thought leader. Lander is a thought leader. And the real problem with them is that they're too committed. They just love, they love the truth and decency too much. They love justice too much. Yeah, sure, they're not practical enough, but their principles are right.

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Their heart's in the right place. It's not hard for the radicals to get Hakeem Jeffries or Nancy Pelosi or all the rest to say that it's important to side with the DSA. All you have to do is say, what are you gonna do? Cave to the evil Trump Republicans? If you force the normal left to choose between Trump voters and the DSA, they will choose the DSA. And then step four, you rinse and repeat.

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So we're all sitting here going, OK, fine, let them try it. Let them try to run AOC on a national level. They'll lose because the vast majority of Americans don't believe this crap. But that's not the point. If you lose, you just repeat steps one through three. Again, the chief target here is not the right yet. The chief target right now is the normie left.

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If you can attack the so-called normie left here and you can destroy them, then you will take over one of the major parties. If you have a stranglehold on a major party, every major party in the United States, Democrat, Republican, doesn't matter. You have at least a 40 percent shot of winning national power. And then all you have to do is wait for your opponent to fall over face first.

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It's essentially what Donald Trump did in 2016. People did not like Barack Obama and they really didn't like Hillary Clinton. And you can stroll into power. No matter how much people write you off, take over any party and you are one step away from taking over the country. In other words, President AOC is not some sort of remote possibility. It is becoming quite possible.

Chapter 3: How are the Democratic Socialists of America influencing the Democratic Party?

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This is the team. This is our year. Again, that was his team, and this was their year, and all the rest of it. Okay, all of those candidates won. All those candidates won. And so Mamdani is, of course, claiming victory. Right. He says that last June was not an anomaly. It was the beginning. Right. Again, step one is eat the face of the party.

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Step two is claim that you are the beginning of a movement. And now you have the power. You're the captain now. We are showing that last June, a year ago tomorrow, was not an anomaly. It was not the end. It was the beginning. Again, this is the pitch. This is the game. Step one, eat the party. Step two, claim victory. Here he was at the New York 7 victory party last night, Zoran Mamdani.

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Again, a terrorist supporter who has never held a real job in his life and somehow vaulted his way to the New York mayoralty on the basis of some very slickly produced TikTok content and media love. My friends, I know many of you have been canvassing for months. And at those canvases, at those fundraisers, at those events, when we introduce our candidates, we use a language of hope.

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We say the next assembly member, the next state senator, the next congressperson, Tonight, we use the language of fact. Okay, again, this is where they're going. So who are these candidates? Because you're sitting there and you're saying, you know, Ben, maybe you're exaggerating.

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You know, you've always been anti-Nancy Pelosi and you've always been ripping on Barack Obama and ripping on Joe Biden and all the rest. And Kamala Harris. What makes these people different? Okay, this is a difference in degree that is akin to a difference in kind. Again, these people make Nancy Pelosi look like she is a right-wing Republican.

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So in the New York 13th District last night, a person named Daria Liza Chevalier defeated a representative named Adriano Espaillat. Chevalier is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America. The DSA wishes to disestablish the American government. That is not an exaggeration. This is a thing they say. Now, again, this was not a member of the DSA defeating a Republican.

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So this wasn't some sort of binary choice between a Trump pick and a crazy left winger. And so New Yorkers went with the crazy left winger. Understand the whole thing here is the DSA and the far left eating the left. Espaillat is one of the most left wing members of the Congressional Caucus. Espaillat has the same voting record as Pramila Jayapal, the head of the Progressive Congressional Caucus.

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Now, the rip, again, this is what they use as the litmus test, is that he wasn't anti-Israel enough. That is always just the excuse because, again, every critique that people like Chevalier use against Israel are also leveled at America. She despises America. She was a co-founder of the Columbia University Apartheid Divest. You remember Columbia University Apartheid Divest.

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That was Mahmoud Khalil. It called for total eradication of Western civilization and seeking, quote, community and instruction from the global south. This person is now going to sit in Congress. She was the co-founder of a group that called for violence against America. She despises everything about America. It's free markets. It's supposed racism. It's supposed settler colonialism, all the like.

Chapter 4: What strategies are being used by the far left to gain power?

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So get rid of the prisons. Also, she says, she was asked, what do you do to the murderer? And she says... Well, I'm trying to answer the question. What we do is that we then put people behind bars in incredibly traumatizing conditions in a context where they cannot actually reflect on the harm that they caused or feel any remorse on that because they're just trying to survive inside.

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They're being re-traumatized day after day. And then she says, you know, again, I'm talking about this question between the distance between the world we want to see and the world that we're at. So again, against prisons, no prisons. She also suggests that Palestine, again, the center of all third worldism is this idea that the Palestinians are eternal victims.

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And you have to liken them to blacks and Latinos in the United States who, of course, are also eternal victims, according to the racial left. Here she was comparing Palestinians to blacks and Latino, which is weird because blacks and Latinos aren't blowing themselves up in coffee shops or, you know, running across borders and murdering twelve hundred people. So there's that.

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But she says they're the same.

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1334.658 - 1348.39 Daria Liza Avila Chevalier

I saw so many connections between what was happening to Palestinians there in Palestine and what was happening to so many communities across the US, particularly black and Latino communities who have been priced out and pushed out of our homes.

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When we talk about displacement in the West Bank or in Gaza, it is a very similar, visually similar situation where people who have been in a place for generations are being displaced because of corporate interests, because of folks who are coming in, claiming the land, and buying it up and kicking the people who live there out.

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And I've seen a lot of similarities, not just in the way things are done, but also in the very institutions that are enacting that violence. The tear gas that was being dropped on Palestinians in Gaza in 2014 was the same tear gas that was being dropped on black protesters in Ferguson in 2014.

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And that memory, that summer for me, was incredibly formative because it showed me that connection is not only one that is like, but it is the very same system.

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Again, remember, when they say that they are just campaigning on Israel, they are campaigning on how much they hate America. They're just replacing the word America with Israel because it's more palatable politically. But they despise the country. This lady despises.

Chapter 5: What are the implications of recent primary results for the Democratic Party?

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How about the guy in Maine? He's got he's got the Nazi stickers. He's got the whole deal. And they're trying to say that. So for eight years, 10 years, they said Trump is a Nazi. Now they can't say that anymore because they have a guy with a tattoo on his chest. It's unbelievable. And again, he's not wrong. Do not compromise with these people.

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Do not have Zoran Mamdani to the White House to talk about what a nice guy he is. He is a communist who hates America. And so are all of the people he's advocating in favor of. Draw a stark contrast. Bright colors. not shades of gray here. That also means that Republicans should not be signing on to big government proposals that raise taxes, for example.

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So Bernie Moreno, who I campaigned for in Ohio, I like Senator Moreno a lot, but this is a bad idea. He is signing on to some sort of plan for social security that Elizabeth Warren is signing on to. Elizabeth Warren, who again, is part of the Bernie Sanders left. The plan is basically just to raise taxes on people. So again, the idea would be

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to increase taxes beyond the payroll tax, beyond $184,000 cap. Get rid of the payroll tax cap. So what does that actually mean? Well, here's the way the social security taxes work. You pay half, your employer pays half. So if you're making more than that, now we're going to raise taxes on you and your employer. And if you're self-employed, then there'll be no limit.

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15% more tax on you for every dollar earned above 184. And this is supposed to save social security. That is ridiculous. The actual restructuring of Social Security that needs to happen, this will not fix the problem. It will just continue to exacerbate the problem. Stop making nice with people who just want to redistribute American income.

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Stop making nice with people who want to punish success in the name of entitlement programs. Don't do it. It's a mistake. Meanwhile, on foreign policy, it is becoming clearer day by day by day that all of America's enemies are cheering the MOU as written and are taking advantage of the weak negotiating position presented by the vice president of the United States yesterday, Pakistan.

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Remember, Pakistan is supposed to be the interlocutor, remember, in this conversation. The Qataris and the Pakistanis are supposed to be our special friends who are helping us achieve a deal. Well, yesterday, Pakistan literally paid homage to Iran and talked about their solidarity with Iran and the dead Ayatollah.

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On your behalf, Gracious invitation, my dear brother President Pazushkian, I shall be undertaking a visit to Tehran next week, inshallah, to pay our respects to the late Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Syed Ali Khamenei, and to reaffirm and reassure Pakistan's solidarity with our brotherly people of Iran.

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Yeah, that's right. Our moderate negotiators are literally paying solid. That is an open statement by the guy who's doing the negotiating. The moderator that he is in solidarity with Iran. That's not great. That's not great. By the way, the IRGC commander, Ahmed Vahidi, one of the supposed moderates. He is, according to C-14 in Israel, he said, quote, we brought President Trump to his knees.

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