U R NEXT | 6. Remember Me?
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I'd like to talk about the arrest which took place in December 2014. Could you talk me through some of the events that led up to that arrest?
Ooh, that's a big question.
Gary Young is a staff sergeant in the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. You first heard from him back in episode three. It's the 5th of December, 2014. Gary and a small group of investigators are hovering outside a run-down apartment block, about 40 minutes drive from Vancouver.
Through our assessment sweep at the time, there were only a few people that were still living in there.
Including Vicious and his family. The cops have been tracking Vicious for weeks, and now they're here to arrest him.
A lot of work was done beforehand in trying to have surveillance in place. He was the type of person that just from our surveillance that he barely ever left his residence.
They know that Vicious isn't just in the house. He's also online right now.
We did have somebody in the office monitoring all his online chats. So we knew that he was active.
Gary and his team are busy getting into position.
We needed his laptop. We needed that computer to be turned on. We're always afraid they will always be quicker to erase or destroy evidence. We entered the residence. We were looking for any type of electronics, laptops.
As the police fan out into the apartment, searching for evidence, they're floored by the state that Vicious' home is in.
It's kind of sad to see how unkempt he was and how unkempt the immediate state he was living in probably has not been cleaned or touched for a whole long period of time. The search partner and I, we were in charge of one room searching, and we found another laptop. We quickly moved it aside to see what was underneath it. And as soon as we moved it, because there was heat underneath, the herd of insects, maggots, cockroaches, came running out so quick, we thought that it was going to crawl up our shoes. Creatures, insects that's crawling out of the sink, liquids from over-stacked dishes seeping onto the floor, garbage, that is essentially the sad part of it. But make no mistake, let's not excuse the behavior of the individual responsible for what he's done to the many, many victims out there as well.
Making his way through to Vicious' bedroom, Gary finally comes face to face with the teenager he's been investigating.
He was sitting in his bed under the blanket. Laptop was actually on top of his thighs. His physical appearance, I would say, would almost be the opposite of how he was portrayed online. He had long, unkempt hair. He's not necessarily what I call an in-shape person. His shoulders were hunched. His demeanor was, I want to say subdued. He wasn't sad or anything. He didn't seem surprised. He was just like, yeah, okay.
Vicious is arrested in his home and then taken to his local police station. He's given an attorney and then Gary and his colleagues start conducting the interviews.
His demeanor was again subdued.
As the interrogators dig in, Vicious starts to reveal more of the character we've come to expect.
It slowly came out. You can sense then the arrogance behind it. Saying like, he thinks it's funny. He doesn't know if he can stop.
How did police plan and execute Vicious’s December 2014 arrest?
My opinion is he lived in a world where he gets to exert a great degree of power and control over someone. The online community is where he can exert that. He wanted his online community to know just how good he is.
When the RCMP was first contacted by Sergeant Ben Finley around spring of 2014, they couldn't share any information about Vicious. Because he was a minor, but also because the threshold to build and then try a case in Canada is just not the same as it is in the U.S. At the time, Ben and his colleagues just didn't have enough of the right evidence.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–4:57
2
How did police plan and execute Vicious’s December 2014 arrest?
4:57–15:16
3
What did officers discover inside Vicious’s home during the raid?
15:16–25:32
4
How did Vicious behave in custody and what did interrogators learn?
25:32–28:54
5
Why did Canadian and US authorities need to collaborate to build the case?
28:54–47:47