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The Briefing with Jen Psaki

Bad Signal: Can Secretary Hegseth be Trusted at the Pentagon?

Sun, 30 Mar

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Amid the fallout from the Trump’s administration’s self-induced security breach, Jen Psaki breaks down why the looming questions about Pete Hegseth’s judgement and character have only grown in the last week. Senator Amy Klobuchar addresses Hegseth’s competence and reacts to the latest in the Signalgate scandal, and Representative Pat Ryan joins to discuss the various ways the administration has attempted to spin their wrongdoing. Journalist Kara Swisher joins Jen to discuss Elon Musk’s aggressive campaigning for Republican control of the state Supreme Court in Wisconsin. Jen breaks down the various state and local races that seem to be breaking more favorably toward Democrats and Michigan state senator Mallory McMorrow joins to talk about organizing  at the grassroots level. Check out our social pages below:https://twitter.com/InsideWithPsakihttps://www.instagram.com/InsideWithPsaki/https://www.tiktok.com/@insidewithpsakihttps://www.msnbc.com/jen-psakihttps://bsky.app/profile/insidewithpsaki.msnbc.com

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What are the red flags about Pete Hegseth?

1562.23 - 1568.134 Host

Yes, crossover episode, because you're going to appear tomorrow on Pivot. Exactly. As my co-host, because Scott Galloway's off doing college tours.

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1568.154 - 1587.401 Host

I'm bringing all of my dirty jokes tomorrow. I'm saving them up. So you are, I don't know a better must translator. There are many things. One of the things I've been thinking about with this Wisconsin state Supreme Court race, and a lot of people have been, is about why. I mean, is it about he cares about abortion policy and redistricting? He wants political power. Yes.

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1587.921 - 1603.699 Host

What is it about? Well, there's actually some cases before the Supreme... Everything, if you trace back, a lot of my stuff has to do with his businesses, even though he says that he's sort of here to save humanity. He talks in very dramatic terms. But actually, there's a very significant case that'll affect Tesla there. And again... So it's about his business.

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1603.739 - 1621.872 Host

His business. Everything he cut initially had regulatory scrutiny on his businesses. Everything has to do with that in some fashion. That's the first thing. The second thing is he's got in his mind that he has a huge political power, and he wants to flex his muscles because he's been sort of lagging here. There's been a lot of legal challenges he's been losing.

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1621.912 - 1643.159 Host

So if he wins here, it shows his power around primaries during the 2026 cycle. And so if he wins here, what he did in the presidential— campaign will work here and then he may replicate it across the country. There's been this kind of fear from people who don't are must translators as well as you as good as do it as well as you that maybe he's going to wear it as welcome.

1645.072 - 1664.865 Host

Do you think he will? Not yet. I think there's a lot of disgruntlement within the Trump campaign groups that is never articulated because they all stay on the same page, even if behind the scenes they're busily knifing each other quietly. I think they're very frustrated by the closeness of Trump and Musk, but they can't say anything because Trump really is all in on Musk at this point.

1664.905 - 1685.839 Host

Now, I've heard different things when he creates problems like talking about Social Security. There's discomfort, but Not yet, because he serves as a huge heat shield for Trump. And I think that's useful. He also has money. That's you. There's a lot of rich people, but he has a lot of money. And then he Trump could do bad things and blame it on him. So, you know, he's his Thanos kind of thing.

1685.879 - 1696.145 Host

I'm going to cut everything in half, essentially. Yeah. Disappear half of you and then the world will be a better place and humanity is saved. It's a very it's actually a very good trope to compare it to. Yeah, that is an interesting one.

1696.165 - 1713.978 Host

That's from Avengers. Oh, I got Avengers. We love Avengers. The heat shield one is an interesting one. And it's because the theory there, just to spell it out more, is that Trump kind of likes having him. He's more unpopular than Trump. Very unpopular, actually. Most polls you look at, a lot of Republican ire has been directed at him. Democratic ire has been directed at him.

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