Bill Kristol: Fake Nicey-Nicey Sh**t
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Hello and welcome to Bullard Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. It is Monday when you're listening to this. So we have Bill Kristol. It is Sunday and we're taping it. I'm hangry. I'm quite hungry, actually. I haven't been able to eat all day. I've got to clean out my whole system because I have one of those middle-aged men procedures tomorrow. And so, you know, if J.D. Vance starts shooting at the drones or some other nominee is creeped on a woman for the cabinet and like that all gets announced Monday morning, you'll have to wait for my fresh take on Tuesday. So, me and Bill. Bill and I are both working through ailments for you on a Monday. How are you doing, Bill? I'm doing fine. Thanks, Tim. Good luck with everything tomorrow. I'm going to be fine.
It'll be fine. I'm going to be fine. We'll do our best here. I guess there was kind of enough news to talk about for short of whatever happens in the 12 hours until Monday morning.
Hold down the fort. There is enough news. The theme of the show today is going to be pre-capitulation and people's just total unwillingness to buck up for the fight ahead of us. It begins with our friends at ABC News. The backstory on this, for people who haven't watched it closely, is I guess George Stephanopoulos He talked about how Trump was found liable for rape and technically he was adjudicated as for sexual assault in a civil suit. And the judge in rendering the verdict on that did essentially say, did say that colloquially what we're talking about here is rape. The judge said that during the judge's verdict, but it was not technically the case, you know, based on the actual verdict.
So Trump sued ABC over this and ABC settled this defamation lawsuit for $15 million. And I just think this is going to have real ramifications. And I guess we'll just start there with your opening thoughts on that bill. It's really terrible.
I mean, the knock-on effects, the intimidation effects going forward are I mean, this was a very – the lawyers I've talked to, for whatever it's worth, and I think this is the consensus. Trump has lost many lawsuits like this. You don't have to show that every word you say on a television show or on a podcast is literally and absolutely correct. You have to show that you were – first of all, it's not clear that Trump was defamed. I mean, people have never heard this charge before. What are the damages to Trump? But leaving that aside, you would have to show, what, is it reckless disregard? Or, you know, that has to be sort of like Stephanopoulos was cautioned, timid us before the show, don't say the word rape, but he said it.
If that's in the deposition documents, I doubt it is, then maybe ABC was right to cave and pay $15 million to the Trump library, which doesn't exist yet, I guess, and $1 million of legal fees. But this kind of, as you say, preemptive capitulation... is just terrible. I mean, Disney has a very big legal department. They have access to extremely good law firms. If they felt they could defend this, I think every other, not just broadcast entity, but other places that have people who are discussing Trump on any medium, I'm thinking about university councils, the chilling effect will be
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