David French: Our State of National Shame

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Tim Miller 0:12
Hello and welcome to the Bullard Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. Delighted to welcome back to the show an opinion columnist for the not-so-failing New York Times compared to the competitor. He's also the co-host of the legal podcast, Advisory Opinions. It's David French. How are you doing, sir? Tim, great to see you. Great to see you. And I'm so thankful we're not so failing.
Unknown 0:32
In this business, Tim, my goodness.
Tim Miller 0:34
Yeah, if you were going to go woke, go mainstream, you know, and leave your conservative media purchase for an actual business, you picked the better one, it appears. Yeah, yeah.
Unknown 0:44
I mean, you know, it's just sad. I mean, it's just really sad. The idea that you're going to heal your institution by... cutting out the reporters in a war zone. I know that war reporting, for example, is extremely expensive and quite often not enough people read it. Right. Yeah. But we, how do you, this is absolutely vital and we're now leaving it in the hands of, you know, we're doing a great job over there. The wall street journals had a lot of great resources, but I don't think enough people understand sort of how the entire news gathering, global news gathering enterprise is now hanging on just a very few institutions right now. Us, the BBC. I mean, there's just not very many.
Tim Miller 1:29
Yeah.
Yeah.
Unknown 1:31
Anyway, I know that's not what we're going to focus on today.
Tim Miller 1:35
We've covered that pretty well yesterday with Marty Baron. I want to start with you in an area of expertise, which is praying. There was a prayer breakfast yesterday. Donald Trump, the president. I'm just picking a few choice things. He called Thomas Massey a moron. He said that Biden was the worst president we ever had, and Biden had no idea that he was president. Biden's watching right now. He has no idea where he is. He praised the El Salvador gulag policy. Bukele spoke earlier, and he painted his authoritarianism as a fight against Satan. Trump closed out by saying, I don't know how any person of faith can vote Democrat. I really don't. And he also vamped a bit about how he should probably make it to heaven.
Tim Miller 2:15
He's not a perfect candidate, but he did a hell of a lot of good for perfect people. So there was the prayer breakfast summary for you.
Unknown 2:24
So the only bright spot in all of that is when he said that Democrats couldn't be – a person of faith couldn't be a Democrat. There was a minor rustle of disapproval, Tim. That's probably the biggest – Pushback he's gotten from a conservative religious audience in a decade. Wow. But, you know, thank goodness for small victories, a minor rustle of discontent within religious circles for him. I mean, well, within conservative religious circles, but the, it's a joke. It's ridiculous. I mean, at some point, You know, I almost feel like he's going to say to sort of conservative religious organizations, I've been punking you this whole time to see how much you will debase yourself for access to power.
Unknown 3:08
What will you not overlook? I've just been pushing this just to see. It's a social experiment. How bad can I be from the standpoint of traditional Christian values and positions? I mean, this is a person who turned the Republican Party decisively from a longstanding pro-life platform. You know, his administration has approved the abortion pill, generic version of the abortion pill. And he's just constantly just exposing the total hypocrisy of conservative evangelicals over character just every day, just every single day. And, you know, it's just a push and a push. This idea anymore that he is actually for religious liberty as opposed to only the religious liberty of his allies or for free speech as opposed to only the free speech of his allies.
Unknown 3:58
You know, at some point you just have to say, It's just very clear there's no line. And then he goes and keeps pushing further and further, you know, with a video I'm sure we want to talk about that he posted.
Tim Miller 4:11
Oh, yeah. We're going to get to the video. Just it was this was so on the nose. I thought it was a spoof. There was one of the aforementioned conservative evangelical commentators and allies of Trump posted yesterday asking if anyone had briefed Trump that the prayer breakfast was a prayer breakfast.

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