Mike Murphy: We’re Living in a Nightmare

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What are the implications of Trump's 'Board of Peace'?

Tim Miller 0:13
Hello and welcome to the Bulwark Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. Delighted to welcome back a veteran political strategist of McCain, Schwarzenegger, Romney, Jeb, and many others. He's a co-host of Hacks on Tap, co-director of the Center for Political Future at USC. He runs the American EV Jobs Alliance, and he's coming at us. coming to us, rather, from Equality Inn in Fresno or Bakersfield. It's Mike Murphy.
Mike Murphy 0:35
Well, don't tell him, Tim. I'm on the run from the Trump Peace Committee. It looked like a War Crimes Rico case when I saw who he's lined up for that damn thing. But yeah, I'm moving quick here.
Tim Miller 0:45
Are the blinds drawn there in that motel?
Mike Murphy 0:48
I am so far off the grid, there's no grid. But anyway, it's great to be on a fantastic podcast. Good to see you, pal.

How does Mike Murphy assess Trump's foreign policy adventures?

Tim Miller 0:55
Man, good to have you back. I just noticed this is by accident. We do this every five months. I went to look at our old Murphy interviews. It's like five months ago, 10 months ago. So, you know, we have a little every, you know, almost half year we have a little date. I guess I just kind of want to hear you cook in general on Trump's Davos performance, kind of the whole thing. I mean, we menaced Greenland and then back down and got nothing. He's, I think, creating an alternate U.N. of only countries that are in the Russian sphere of influence. It's unbelievable.
Mike Murphy 1:27
It just, it's, we're right in, it's strange lovey and you know, no fighting in the war room. Now the board of peace. All right.

What criticisms does Murphy have about Trump's approach to the auto industry?

Mike Murphy 1:33
You guys wash the blood off your hands and report to the photo op.
Tim Miller 1:36
I was doing some research on some of the countries. I didn't know a whole lot. I was like, what's happening in Uzbekistan lately. And it seems like human rights violations is what's happening there.
Mike Murphy 1:45
And in most of the countries that are on the board of peace, but this is a very old poll for your senior citizen, uh, but there used to be a fantastic political cartoonist named, uh, Jeff McNally for the Chicago trip. And in the Carter era, he did all these great UN cartoons. And he was kind of a conservative. And he'd draw the UN as this rogues gallery of guys with a frying pan on their head. And that's what came to mind when I saw these jokers, you know, the whole thing.
Tim Miller 2:14
Did you see the Turkish minister that kind of looked like Hitler?
Yeah.
Tim Miller 2:17
That was fine.
Mike Murphy 2:19
I think he shops at Bogino Menswear, which is a hot new Trumpian outlet for that kind of Hugo Boss, you know, take over the Polish ghetto outfit.

What does Mike Murphy think about the Democrats' recent DHS funding vote?

Mike Murphy 2:30
So the old record for astonished, cynical foreign leader watching a semi... idiot American president at international gathering was George Clemenceau, the tiger of France, who said he wanted to be buried standing up facing Germany. Anyway, he sat there with a million casualties after World War I, listening to Woodrow Wilson, 14 points of, you know, blah, blah. And he turned over to Lloyd George from Britain and said, you know, Jesus Christ only had 10. Well, that has now been surpassed by what I think all the foreign leaders were saying in a wonderful orchestra of different language, which is what the fuck? Because we now have the superpower that they rely on, the metronome beat of Western democracy run by a crackpot, egomaniac child.
Mike Murphy 3:18
I'm sure they all had to go like take a double whiskey and get a dentist or a bit lip when they're just listening to this lunatic. But it's dangerous. I was over there right after Trump first got elected in Europe and A couple of, you know, big, rich guys had hired Erskine Bowles and I to do a little presentation on what's what. And they say, don't you guys understand you're the orchestra conductor? And when you like take the baton and like, you know, stick it in your head, screws up the whole damn thing for all of us. And the bad guys went. So, yeah, we're living a nightmare right now.

How does Gavin Newsom's strategy impact his political future?

Mike Murphy 3:51
It's got a shot clock on it, but it's a nightmare.
Tim Miller 3:54
it's the tiniest silver lining of the board of peace for me is that shot clock. It does seem like he is positioning himself to be, you know, kind of head of the new world order after he leaves, which is nice. Like I wanted, I want him to have an exit plan.

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