Pete Buttigieg: Time for Radical Change
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Hello and welcome to the Bulwark Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller, coming at you from my old stomping grounds in Des Moines, Iowa on Sunday evening. I was at the Liberty and Justice Dinner put on by the Iowa Democratic Party. It was conveniently for me at Prairie Meadows Casino. where I spent a lot of time on the craps table back in my heyday. So it was nice to get back into town. And I was here to have a little chat with the keynote speaker at that dinner. I'm delighted to be able to sit down with him today. You might know him as the former mayor of South Bend, Indiana, former secretary of transportation. Navy veteran, winner of the 2020 Democratic Caucuses right here in Iowa. It's Pete Buttigieg.
Hey, Pete, how's it going? Good. Thanks for having me. How was it on Sunday night?
Great. Really good energy. It felt kind of like a reunion because there are all these memories of... when I was here in 2020. But also, I just really feel good about our chances in Iowa.
Yeah. To me, it felt like even in the room, some of the Iowa Democrats have been depleted. You know, I try to come back to Iowa every year. I got a lot of old friends here from my campaigns past. And I don't know, I went to an event in 24. And, you know, it's just Republicans have controlled the state for 10 years. And like after a while, eventually you get beaten down. And it does, it did feel like there was a little bit of a jolt of energy among the Iowa Dems.
Yeah, I think so. And it's not just vibes. I mean, people are seeing it in the numbers. You're seeing it in what's possible. And as the Iowa Democrats are quick to point out, this is maybe the only place where you have a chance to get that many House seats flipped and a Senate seat and the governor's office at the same time. And I also think, I mean, this is a little provincial of me maybe, but I think this Midwest region is an especially important place to prove that out. because I think we can show how what we believe about policy and what we believe about just how people ought to treat each other and how people ought to act all kind of comes into alignment in the way that people in this part of the country really care about.
And then in turn, the other thing that excites me is I think when we have more wins in places like this, We have more voices inside the party who are elected, who are from places like this. And it really makes a difference to our vocabulary and our body language and our ability to connect versus the places that are kind of already the biggest strongholds of the party.
I was talking to a state senator from Sioux City who was there. And just at the end of the conversation, I looked at her and I was like, you just talk like a regular person. person, which is really nice. You know, I think a lot of times the Democrats talk about talking like a regular person and then you end up actually still, you know, kind of using the types of terms that you'd use like a Grinnell symposium or in like activist meetings or whatever. And it's just different, you know?
Yeah. And I think just having that kind of normal human style and approach and vocabulary is rewarded in some places, maybe more than others. And I think it's a rewarded here in the politics of a place like Iowa.
I want to talk about your speech and the big themes of it for a lot of the show.
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Chapters
4 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–4:53
2
How does Pete Buttigieg describe Iowa’s political energy and its importance?
4:53–18:31
3
What happened in recent ICE-related shootings and how does Pete react?
18:31–1:05:17
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Why does Pete argue Democrats must link everyday issues to political reform?
1:05:17–1:18:20
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