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The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source

Very important agents (Friends)

05 Dec 2025

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

14.797 - 45.569 Adam

Welcome to ChangeLog and Friends, your weekly talk show about coding with agents. A big thank you to our friends and our partners over at Fly.io, the home of ChangeLog.com and maybe your home too. Learn more at Fly.io. Okay, let's talk. Well, friends, Agentic Postgres is here. And it's from our friends over at Tiger Data.

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45.85 - 68.789 Adam

This is the very first database built for agents and it's built to let you build faster. You know, a fun side note is 80% of Claude was built with AI. Over a year ago, 25% of Google's code was AI generated. It's safe to say that now it's probably close to 100%. Most people I talk to, most developers I talk to right now, Almost all their code is being generated. That's a different world.

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69.07 - 84.696 Adam

Here's the deal. Agents are the new developers. They don't click, they don't scroll. They call, they retrieve, they parallelize. They plug in your infrastructure to places you need it to perform, but your database is probably still thinking about humans only because that's kind of where Postgres is at.

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Attacker Data's philosophy is that when your agents need to spin up sandboxes, run migrations, query huge volumes of vector and text data, well, normal Postgres, it might choke. And so they fixed that. Here's where we're at right now. Agentic Postgres delivers these three big leaps, native search and retrieval, instant zero copy forks, and MCP server, plus your CLI, plus a cool free tier.

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108.031 - 133.009 Adam

Now, if this is intriguing at all, head over to TigerData.com, install the CLI, just three commands, spin up an Agente Postgres service, and let your agents work at the speed they expect, not the speed of the old way. The new way, Agente Postgres, it's built for agents, is designed to elevate your developer experience and build the next big thing. Again, go to TigerData.com to learn more.

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We can listen to Change Logging Friends. Adam and Jerry and people you know. Change Logging Friends. It's your favorite ever show.

151.8 - 155.228 Nick Nisi

Well, Vim was backwards. You can't have that. Oh my goodness. Gotta represent.

155.669 - 157.393 Jerry

New Ang. It was Miv.

159.213 - 173.25 Nick Nisi

You know, my daughter's friend apparently was telling her class that my license plate stands for very important man, which I felt super embarrassed about.

Chapter 2: How is Agentic Postgres revolutionizing database management?

186.196 - 192.477 Jerry

Well, that's when you leave the kids to figure stuff out on their own. You know, they're going to just they're going to figure out what that acronym stands for.

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193.418 - 202.851 Adam

I weep for the youth. Isn't that the case of every older generation that at some point they weep for the youth? Yes. Yes. Right. I never thought I would be there, but I, I concur.

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202.911 - 222.243 Jerry

There's a lot of crying. We're just doing a lot of crying. So much crying and complaining. Where was it last week? I just, I had to get my complaints out. I just like, hold on guys, let me complain about something and then we can move on. I can figure out what it was, but I don't know. It was the way of the world. And it's just like, Why? Why are we like this?

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222.283 - 227.47 Jerry

Why do we have to complain about the way things are? Just accept, embrace, and extinguish or something like that.

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228.051 - 237.744 Adam

Something like that, yeah. Get extinguished. Enjoy. Enjoy. Accept, embrace, enjoy. Yeah, you might as well. That's where I'm at. What choice do you have, right?

Chapter 3: What are the implications of AI-generated code for developers?

237.924 - 241.99 Jerry

Just heaven, ha. That's all we can do. Can't change anything, you know?

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242.351 - 249.16 Adam

I'm more concerned about this new look Nick is rocking. Not just the shirt and being a very important man, but...

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249.14 - 254.165 Nick Nisi

You like that? Instagram. Instagram is how I get my style.

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254.205 - 255.967 Jerry

Instagram sold you that t-shirt?

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256.328 - 266.378 Nick Nisi

It did. I mean, some ad on Instagram. It keeps zooming in on me, but let's see if it'll zoom in on Pierce. It's him holding an N64 controller while playing GoldenEye.

266.859 - 268 Jerry

Ah, that's sick.

268.02 - 277.51 Adam

That's dope, man. They pegged you demographically and got you to buy that. That was one of the best games of all time. Modern for us in our era.

278.182 - 302.586 Adam

uh back in the day for many or not in the day at all for most back in the day for us not back in the day for many yeah speaking of since we're just like picking apart my appearance uh does my face look extra flushed like a like were you santa recently nick i was not like your your appearance is very santa like and it is december what is this uh roseola you got going

302.65 - 309.978 Nick Nisi

Oh, well, that is from my new favorite thing in the world, which you're not going to believe. All it cost me was my dignity.

Chapter 4: What are the latest trends in AI and JavaScript development?

345.675 - 352.434 Jerry

Nick dropped the ball. We can't hang out with this guy. So. who gave you this idea and why did you follow it?

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352.975 - 374.163 Nick Nisi

I've been doing a lot of travel, which I've been spending a lot of time on airplanes and like trying to get work done. You know, my flight to, I've been flying mostly to San Francisco and I've been flying United. And for some reason, the Omaha to San Francisco direct flight for some reason has free star link, which is amazing. So I can literally like stream TV shows and have fast internet.

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374.183 - 377.427 Nick Nisi

I could take zoom calls, but I'm not that guy. Not yet.

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377.626 - 378.307 Jerry

You're not.

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378.327 - 381.251 Adam

I don't know, dude. We're going to have to reconsider. Might as well. Right.

381.271 - 381.771 Nick Nisi

Might as well.

381.931 - 383.573 Adam

Is there a zoo in the Vision Pro? Maybe.

383.794 - 391.864 Nick Nisi

There is. There is. And when you connect with that, you connect with your avatar. So they just see like a weird 3D representation of me, which is amazing.

391.904 - 394.147 Jerry

Is that what we're looking at right now? Could be.

Chapter 5: What predictions does Nick have for the future of AI and coding?

2718.599 - 2719.64 Jerry

Yeah. They just announced it today.

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2719.761 - 2742.025 Adam

So that's a bleeding news, man. Butting edge news. That's right. December 2nd, 2025. You're already here first release. I did. I didn't catch that news yet. Yeah, man. Wow. Good for them. I think that's smart. I mean, I think that amp was really pushing. I mean, it's my favorite. I just can't afford it. It's, it's my favorite to use. It seems to be expensive no matter how I hold it.

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2742.145 - 2749.858 Adam

So, uh, and, uh, Yeah, I just wish I was a little bit more richer. Wish I was a little bit taller.

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2750.199 - 2750.839 Nick Nisi

Wish I was a baller.

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2751.02 - 2773.125 Adam

There you go. Because then I can hold my AMP all day long and I would love it. I do think – so I think AMP is phenomenal. Even though it's using the same models, it's phenomenal at planning. It's also phenomenal at execution, but it's phenomenal at planning. I trust its plan so much. Consulting the Oracle is just a – Just a delight. I just like saying, this is great.

2773.165 - 2794.666 Adam

We've been planning this thing. But can you talk to the Oracle about this? Because that's who really is going to bless this, right? They stamp it. Oracle's blessed it. But anyways, the Oracle's cool. Their thoughtfulness around the language they use around it is just cool. The handoff, for those of us who have to live under the context window, is just phenomenal.

2794.706 - 2813.147 Adam

The handoff option, you push Control-O. And you can hand off once you get close to sort of like context completion or I guess context filling, whatever you want to call that, and hand off the prompt and it references the old thread for context but gets a new fresh context window. I think that's the –

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much better than Claude code's way, which is like basically your mid something is like no more for you. Just stop right there and wait for the context.

2822.082 - 2829.313 Nick Nisi

When did it come back? The pro move is like you come to a natural stopping point and compact before moving on. So you control that more.

Chapter 6: How does AI impact the way we browse the web?

2836.723 - 2843.573 Adam

I think that's like a chef's kiss moment, a delight. So you find a four leaf clover. It just doesn't happen too often.

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2843.654 - 2857.567 Nick Nisi

You can run slash context in cloud code and it will give you like a little graph of how much context you're using. And if I just spin up cloud and run slash context without giving it anything, I'm at 112,000 tokens.

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2860.33 - 2861.29 Jerry

You need to trim up that.

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2863.252 - 2866.756 Nick Nisi

It's, it's that it's the MCP file, like MCP tools loading in.

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2866.776 - 2867.736 Jerry

How many tools are you using?

2868.197 - 2870.859 Nick Nisi

Not that many. It's like, yeah, apparently you are.

2870.98 - 2872.581 Jerry

MCP is hungry.

2872.662 - 2897.346 Nick Nisi

It is. But that's also an anthropic thing that is open, right? They did that. I think the skills are where it's at right now, at least. I think the MCP is on its way out and skills or something like it is on its way in because it's just a better way or some kind of tool discovery. Do you have any skills? I do. I have a whole marketplace. You can get the Nick Nisi official marketplace.

2897.706 - 2898.347 Nick Nisi

I'm just saying.

Chapter 7: What are the challenges with current voice assistants?

3014.399 - 3018.543 Jerry

Like, why are you going to call it agent code simplifier? Can you like agent X or something, you know?

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3018.883 - 3040.217 Nick Nisi

Well, because it's in my marketplace now, it's like at Nick Nisi colon essentials slash, I don't know. Like, yeah, it's, it's a whole thing now, but you could call it whatever you want. You could take it and copy it and call it whatever you want. That's a cool one. I also made one that is a...

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3040.501 - 3055.487 Nick Nisi

Uh, it's like a, a consultant, uh, because like, I also want to experiment with these other models and figure out what's, what's going on. And so I made a consultant that can do three different things, depending on how you ask it.

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3056.148 - 3082.692 Nick Nisi

The first one is you can be like, ah, I don't know, you know, if Claude is like spinning its wheels on something or get stuck, I can be like, ah, that doesn't sound right. Consult with Codex. And it will go spin off a subagent, open up Codex CLI as an MCP server and talk to it and ask it to weigh in. And it can do that with Codex, Perplexity, Grok, Gemini, and maybe it's just Claude.

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3082.672 - 3105.866 Nick Nisi

As like a like a separate subagent. I can do that. It can also do a like a deep research where it will ask all five of them to do deep research and then it will collate the answers together and give you a result. But then like building on top of that, it can also deliberate. Where it will ask them all to do the research or to answer a question and it will get all five answers back.

3106.227 - 3119.27 Nick Nisi

And then it will give all five answers to all five of them again and be like, Grok said this. Codex said that. And have them like whittle down to an answer. And then it's like, oh, okay. Based on what you want, like Gemini's solution seems to be the best.

3119.55 - 3131.297 Jerry

You need to get 12 of these set up and then ask them what you have for lunch, you know, and just go scorched earth on your entire life. Just like how much energy can I use on simple mundane tasks? Like five is not enough.

3131.617 - 3133.259 Adam

Can I get $1,000?

3133.279 - 3137.883 Jerry

A million dollar question. What should I have for lunch?

Chapter 8: What are the implications of AI on SEO and website visibility?

3186.325 - 3200.804 Jerry

That's what they're there for. You know, those moments in life where you're like, I could just use somebody else to scan this for me and give me some advice here. Good use. Good use. Okay. So you're, you're just Claude coding it up, man.

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3201.365 - 3201.645 Nick Nisi

Oh yeah.

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3202.366 - 3212.179 Jerry

Oh yeah. All day. Now, how much of this is work? All of it. It's all work. He's contractually obligated to say that all of it.

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3212.96 - 3236.552 Nick Nisi

I'm currently a team of one. And so I make up for that by having a up to, I think I've had up to 14 Claude code instances running simultaneously. And I use Tmux to manage it all. I built like a little Tmux floating window dashboard that I can pop up and it shows me like, you know, this project is waiting on a response from you. This project's done.

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3236.592 - 3239.798 Nick Nisi

And like, it shows me the cloud status of each one.

3240.233 - 3241.895 Jerry

Do you ever feel like you're babysitting?

3242.395 - 3242.575 Nick Nisi

Yes.

3242.856 - 3245.238 Jerry

Constantly. Yes. Constantly. I bet.

3245.258 - 3269.042 Nick Nisi

It's also the worst when I'm like, when I'm digging into a problem that I don't really know like a lot about, like it might be in some weird language that I don't have a lot of context about and I'm working with someone else and they also, I don't know if you've been in the situation yet, but it's like me and another human are having a conversation, but there's a long pause between each one because we're both checking with our AIs before responding to each other.

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