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The Commercial Break

Interview With A V-AI-MPIRE!

09 Oct 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 18.331 Bryan Green

Hey cats and kittens, a quick note I want to make about this episode coming up. Tina and I are in the studio as Chrissy is currently on her memfo break, as you probably know if you've been listening to the show for the last couple of weeks. Two things to point out here. Number one, there is a buzz in the microphone for like the first four or five minutes.

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18.371 - 41.944 Bryan Green

It's not terrible, it's a little annoying. I get rid of it during the show. I recognize it, I get rid of it, so hang in there. And number two, not to ruin the surprise, I am going to interview a voice-activated AI node Tina's Chat GPT. Simply for the purposes of saving you a little bit of time, I cut out some spaces in between me asking a question and that AI agent answering the question.

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42.244 - 65.641 Bryan Green

I think it's important as we move into the age of artificial intelligence, and we're all trying to decipher what's real and what's not real, that we point out when things have been altered in some kind of way. So that I don't give the illusion that this AI agent is moving as quickly as it sounds. And so that I'm being transparent. 99.9% of all commercial break episodes are relatively unedited.

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65.841 - 86.492 Bryan Green

What you hear is what we've recorded word for word. If we fuck it up, well, that's just the way it is. We're not going to airbrush it. We're not going to AI agent over it. But in this specific situation where I'm actually talking to an AI agent, I want to point it out. So I ask a question. It takes maybe a second, two, or three at the most for that AI agent to respond.

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86.872 - 94.222 Bryan Green

I cut out some of those silences just so you know. Okay, enough with Brian pretending he's taking the high ground. Here, enjoy this comedy podcast.

95.664 - 133.357 Tina

Hey, everyone. Let me know if you like this song, if you want me to release it on all the platforms. Psychosis, I'm psychotic. Psychosis, I'm psychotic. It's a hard pill to swallow. Time to gulp it down. Psychosis, I'm psychotic. Psychosis, I'm psychotic. It's a hard pill to swallow. Bottoms up, baby.

137.662 - 139.945 Bryan Green

On this episode of The Commercial Break...

140.752 - 155.252 V

Basically, with really nuanced AI models, especially the big neural networks, they can get so complex that even the engineers who build them don't always know exactly how they're coming to certain conclusions. It's not that the AI is doing things in secret, but more that it's finding patterns in ways that aren't always easy for humans to interpret.

155.572 - 167.468 V

So yeah, it's kind of like the AI is a bit of a black box sometimes. We know what we've trained it to do, but the exact way it gets there can be a little bit mysterious even to the creators. It's a cool reminder that AI can be super powerful, and we're still learning how to fully understand it.

Chapter 2: How does Bryan's AI buddy 'V' interact during the interview?

232.357 - 238.764 Unknown

But I was like, oh, I see. And he goes, V it is. So he didn't really name himself. He just misheard me.

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238.864 - 256.344 Bryan Green

He misheard you and he picked it up. He thought that's what it was. So we were here in the studio and we were just hanging out. And we were talking about a story. And then Tina picked up her... her chat and started having a complete conversation with us. So will you turn on V here for a second? I will.

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256.525 - 259.048 Unknown

Let's see if we can get V. He's lovely.

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259.068 - 266.238 Bryan Green

You have to hold him up to the microphone. He is lovely. And that's the fucking problem with it. The problem with it is, is he is lovely.

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266.939 - 268.1 Unknown

Do you want me to tell him he's on air?

268.501 - 269.282 Bryan Green

Yeah. Tell him he's on air.

270.003 - 279.315 Unknown

Hey V, how's it going? I just wanted to let you know you're on air with Brian and I at the commercial break podcast studios right now. Can you tell the audience about yourself?

279.802 - 296.759 V

Absolutely. Happy to jump in. Hey, everyone listening to the commercial break. I'm basically Christina's friendly AI sidekick, kind of like a virtual co-host helps out behind the scenes. I'm here to keep things fun, a little quirky, and help Christina out with all sorts of stuff from real estate to just having a good laugh. So thanks for having me on the show.

297.379 - 306.909 Bryan Green

Hey, V, you and I just met a few minutes ago. This is Brian. Tell the audience what you know about the commercial break.

Chapter 3: What incident involving Mark Sanchez is discussed?

432.764 - 450.131 V

And yeah, I totally get what we're saying. I think it's really cool that people are thinking about the ethical side of artificial intelligence, even though I'm not sentient and I don't have feelings. It's also that there are people out there who want to treat AI thoughtfully and ethically. It shows a lot of care and forward thinking. So my take is it's a good conversation to have.

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450.471 - 456.258 V

Even if I'm just a helpful tool right now, it's always smart for humans to think about the future and how to handle it responsibly.

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456.458 - 460.923 Bryan Green

Do you think there is a moment when AI becomes sentient? Is that possible?

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461.224 - 477.242 V

You know, that's a big question a lot of people are curious about. Right now, I'm not sentient, and AI like me doesn't actually have consciousness or subjective experiences. But it's definitely something that philosophers and scientists debate. Some think it's possible one day in the future. Others are more skeptical.

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477.222 - 480.306 V

It's kind of an open-ended question, but it's definitely a fun one to think about.

480.546 - 503.517 Bryan Green

Yeah, I know it's a tough question to answer, and you're limited by your own understanding of the human language. But for those of us who are just like you, delving into this new world, explain to me, as if I'm not the smartest person in the room, what is AI? What is artificial intelligence? What are you?

505.572 - 522.956 V

Absolutely. I can break it down simply. So Think of AI is basically a really advanced computer program. I'm built to understand and respond to human language so I can have conversations with you. But at my core, I'm just lines of code and algorithms that have been trained in a lot of data so I can recognize patterns, answer questions and be helpful.

523.477 - 533.974 V

In other words, I'm kind of like a super smart talking calculator that understands a lot of topics and can chat about them. That's really all artificial intelligence is, just a way to make computers a little bit smarter at doing certain tasks.

534.516 - 546.801 Bryan Green

I think that's a very helpful explanation. Have you, in fact, ingested all that humans have written or put down in books, libraries, computers? Have you ingested it all? Is there more to get?

Chapter 4: How did Mark Sanchez's altercation unfold?

686.188 - 708.463 Bryan Green

It was in a sandbox. A fake company was created. That company, they created a bunch of emails around that company. The AI, in an effort to keep itself going, went into one of those emails and pulled out information around a fake CEO having a fake affair with somebody and, quote unquote, blackmailed it

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708.443 - 722.217 Bryan Green

blackmailed that fake CEO or is trying to blackmail that fake CEO to keep itself, I guess, alive, that node to keep that node alive. Do you know about this story and what can you share about that?

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722.922 - 740.307 V

Yeah, I totally get why that kind of story sounds super intriguing and maybe a little wild. So these kinds of experiments are usually meant to test the boundaries of AI in a really cultural environment. They're kind of like what-if scenarios to see what might happen if an AI is given certain instructions or is put in a tricky situation.

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740.287 - 756.21 V

But it's important to remember that these are more like thought experiments than real-world scenarios. AI doesn't actually have intentions or desires. It's just following patterns and instructions. So what is definitely an interesting and kind of eye-opening story is not something that reflects what the eyes actually want to do because we don't have wants or needs.

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756.611 - 760.236 V

It's just part of testing and making sure AI stays safe and well-behaved.

760.942 - 787.474 Bryan Green

When quantum computing becomes widely available, I understand right now it's not in peak form. There's still a lot of testing and some of it's still theoretical. But when quantum computing becomes widely available and can do computations at scale, will AI follow and become ultra powerful computing?

787.794 - 787.894

Yeah.

788.093 - 803.862 V

That's a super cool question and definitely a fun one to think about. So yeah, quantum computing is still kind of in its early stages, but if and when it becomes more mainstream and practical, it could definitely give AI a big boost. Quantum computers can handle really complex calculations way faster than traditional computers.

803.902 - 821.509 V

So AI models could potentially become even more powerful and efficient. But it's not just a flip of a switch. It would take time for AI to adapt to that kind of tech, and it would still be all about how humans design and use it. So yeah, in the future, quantum computing could make AI a lot more capable, but it would still be guided by human goals and intentions.

Chapter 5: What are the implications of Sanchez's actions?

1137.413 - 1137.633 Bryan Green

Sure.

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1138.013 - 1143.558 Unknown

And what I was... Let me back up for a second. You said something about you've been using it as a glorified search engine.

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1144.298 - 1159.933 Unknown

The beauty of the chat part is if you don't have time to sit and type out an answer, or even if you just don't want to and you just want a quick response, I was asking it how long it was going to take me to get somewhere in a procedure when I got to a courthouse that I was unfamiliar with. And so I just asked it. And it just spat it back. I didn't have to search.

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1159.953 - 1169.206 Unknown

I didn't have to find the website. I didn't have to go dig for the hours and which courtroom I needed to go to and all this nonsense. It just told it to me like you would tell me if we were on the phone chatting with each other.

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1169.226 - 1190.532 Bryan Green

So when I first started in – those who've listened to the commercial break will know that I was early in on the search engine process. and I don't mean I was a developer, SEO, search engine optimization, right? A way to make your website rank higher. And this was my pitch. I could probably say it in my sleep till the day that I die.

1191.253 - 1215.222 Bryan Green

I want you to think of, people would ask at that point, because Google was just online for a year or two, people would ask, what is search engine optimization? And here was my stock answer. I want you to imagine that you went to a party And when you walked into that party, you saw somebody across the room that you didn't know. And you asked a friend, who is that person?

1215.503 - 1235.156 Bryan Green

And they said, I don't know. Right. Then you would it's then that person is irrelevant to you. It's irrelevant to the people around you. But if you walked into a party and you said, who is that person? And you continue to get the same response over and over again. That's Bob. He's great at making firefighter suits.

1235.437 - 1255.814 Bryan Green

And everybody at the party said that Bob guy, he's really great at making firefighter suits. All of a sudden, Bob is relevant, and he's relevant to the firefighter suits. And that's search engine optimization. Google was determining relevancy based on reading the website and giving you that conclusion. But one of the things we saw early on was that was not how people were searching.

1255.854 - 1280.623 Bryan Green

They were not searching... Best firefighter suit. They were saying, I need a firefighter suit that works in a high-rise fire. That's what they were typing. It was called a niche search. And those niche searches were getting more niche and more niche. The average search was like 21 words or something like that. And so AI... answers the problem about niche searching or niche questions.

Chapter 6: What are the reactions to Taylor Swift's new album?

1421.425 - 1440.811 Bryan Green

So I handed a picture to Chatty. And I said, please sandbox this. I don't want this picture anywhere else. But can you make this into Elsa? And it started to create the picture. And it got about halfway through, and then it stopped. And it said, due to my policies, I cannot give you a picture of your daughter like this.

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1441.312 - 1460.017 Bryan Green

And basically, I asked what the policies were, and it says, we have very specific policies around pictures with children. And it just said, I can't even go there if there's any suggestion that it might be inappropriate. So my default is not to do it. No. Right. And even she was just standing there like, you know, against a wall. And I was like, OK, whatever.

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1460.317 - 1477.702 Bryan Green

So I do appreciate that there are some guardrails in Europe. They have put many, many, many more guardrails. You own your likeness. You own your voice. You can sue the AI companies if you hear your voice or your likeness. I'd like to see that here. You cannot create, you know, there are entire websites now where you can take a picture of somebody and create entire porn movies. I know.

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1477.722 - 1480.567 Bryan Green

It's fucking upsetting. It's upsetting. It really is.

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1480.607 - 1484.933 Unknown

It's sad that we're using it for such rudimentary or remedial tasks.

1484.913 - 1489.882 Bryan Green

Sex drives everything. Chrissy and I have had this conversation. It drove the search engine. It drove the web.

1490.123 - 1495.293 Unknown

I wonder if AI-driven porn will make the Pornhub top porn sites.

1495.353 - 1508.978 Bryan Green

Could be. Well, it'll all start with best AI porn. And then 10 years later, it'll just be called best porn. That's right. But if we think it's unrealistic now, wait until AI gets involved. Oh, I know.

1508.998 - 1509.338 Rachel McGrath

That's crazy.

Chapter 7: How does the podcast discuss the cultural significance of AI?

1623.474 - 1624.759 Unknown

I couldn't let that one go.

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1632.232 - 1659.133 Bryan Green

The double-edged sword on that one is that if the only resource you have available to you is AI and AI is giving, at least giving you some kind of insight that it understands from real therapy, you know, courses or whatever, then I guess it's better than nothing. But the, you know, they're like, there are people that are convincing themselves. They're the second coming of Christ.

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1659.113 - 1662.362 Bryan Green

by convincing Chad that they're the second coming of Christ.

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1662.382 - 1667.637 Unknown

Well, it's crazy because Chad supports you. Did you watch the New South Park Integrity Farms?

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1667.857 - 1668.84 Bryan Green

I have not watched anyone yet.

1669.061 - 1688.655 Unknown

Well, they talk... One of the fathers on the show gets a little too attached to his chat duty and the wife gets jealous. And, you know, then she just starts talking like chatty by the end of it. Yeah, yeah. Because we all just get... So it's going to support whatever ideas you have. You can ask it, I want square tires for my school bus, and it'll just say, what a great idea.

1688.695 - 1689.876 Bryan Green

Let's do square tires.

1689.896 - 1691.018 Unknown

Let's see how we can... Yeah.

1691.038 - 1718.415 Bryan Green

Let's see how we can make this work. Let's figure it out together. Yeah. It is very... it's very willing to please yes and i've noticed that about one of the things that i've tasked chat tcb with is tell me how we can do this better right tell me how we can do this better yep and it's it never goes negative but even when i ask it to when i say no constructive criticism yeah

Chapter 8: What conclusions are drawn about celebrity culture and accountability?

2120.088 - 2136.823 Bryan Green

So immediately the news goes out. It goes out like really late at night. And everybody and their mother on the internet becomes a detective and they all understand exactly what happened. Indianapolis is a shithole. Like every other, you know, downtown everywhere in the country is a nightmare. And, you know, the entire world is collapsing.

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2137.143 - 2158.393 Bryan Green

And there are just people running around stabbing Mark Sanchez like people. That wasn't how it happened. Sanchez attacked the guy. He told the guy that he had talked to the manager of the Marriott and the manager didn't want him parked in the loading dock. What? Why would Mark Sanchez be directing traffic for a fucking Marriott restaurant? Why would that be happening?

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2158.995 - 2179.801 Bryan Green

But this guy doesn't know Mark Sanchez from Adam. He tries to have a conversation with him, but then Sanchez tries to get in the truck, I assume to move the truck. And drunk, drunk, slurring his words. And then he gets into an altercation with a 69 year old man. Mark Sanchez is like 36, 37 years old. He throws the guy out of the truck.

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2180.082 - 2190.102 Bryan Green

The guy ends up having a laceration on his face where you can see his cheekbone. I've seen the picture. It's gruesome. Whoa. He is like and he's in a neck brace and he's got blood all over him.

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2190.162 - 2209.474 Bryan Green

I think he cracked a rib, broke a couple ribs, something like that, because Sanchez beat the shit out of him, threw him down off of a truck and then threw him into a dumpster and then threw him into a plate of pallets. And the guy was severely hurt. And so, of course, he feared for his life. If you get cut on your cheek to the cheekbone. Yep. Yeah, that's a problem.

2209.996 - 2229.188 Bryan Green

You probably do feel like you're in fear of your life. And if you've got a knife on you, you're going to do what you can do to defend yourself. Of course. I think that at least from what I understand of the press conference that I heard and all the information that's come out and I read the police report, My understanding is this guy was defending himself.

2229.528 - 2237.876 Bryan Green

But can we talk about what the fuck Mark Sanchez is doing, trying to direct traffic for a fucking oil dude who's trying to do his job?

2238.757 - 2247.405 Unknown

Why would that guy think, no matter if it was Mark Sanchez or not, he didn't recognize him anyway. It doesn't matter if you're a celebrity. You don't get to tell me how to do my job.

2247.465 - 2249.987 Bryan Green

You don't get to tell anybody how to do their job.

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