Chapter 1: What is the Hinge lawsuit about?
every day at least 50 times i say well this can't be and then to my shock and dismay it continues being and i've just been wondering when something is going to be done about that on this episode of the commercial break i'm thinking in my later 20s have i like met someone out and then gone on a few dates with them i don't think so here is this is i was explaining this to somebody a
I think the world needs more nosy ant matchmakers. Do you know what I'm saying?
Absolutely. I said this the other day, Brian.
Nosy matchmakers.
Yes. We are one woman. I love that. Go, queen. Slay queen.
Slay queen. Go, queen. Get off on it.
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Chapter 2: How does false advertising affect dating apps?
Oh, yeah, cats and kittens, welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Greene, and this is our editor-in-chief, Christina. Christina, best to you.
Best to you, Brian.
And best to you out there in the podcast universe. I always wondered if it was editor-in-chief or editor-in-chief. Both. Yeah, you just got to read the actual, read it on MSNBC. Editor-in-chief. I don't know what that means, but, you know, I'll roll with it because they say it's official. She's the chief editor. She's the chief editor in charge.
I'm the chief editor. She's a cheap bitch in charge. Oh, you're damn right I am.
Chapter 3: What are the implications of gamification in dating apps?
Oh, yes.
Christina was just reading me a very and telling me about a very interesting story. Now, maybe not relevant to those of us who are old and married, but maybe more relevant to those of us who are young and single. Christina, do tell about the Hinge lawsuit because I'm very interested. I have a lot to say about this.
There's a little lawsuit flying around against the Match group, which is like Tinder, Match.com, and Hinge.
I didn't realize that they owned so many of them until you started telling me this story. I mean, I think I did know that Match owned Tinder, but I didn't realize they owned Hinge, Match.com.
I don't know. It's crazy. So basically, I'm reading from the Washington Post, just so you guys know, but it says there's a class action lawsuit filed February 14th. Six dating app users accused Match Group of having a predatory business model and deliberately employing psychologically manipulative features to ensure they remain on the app perpetually as paying subscribers. No shit.
And they're saying it violates consumer protection laws because it intentionally designs the platforms with addictive game-like design features which lock users into a perpetual pay-to-play loop that prioritizes corporate profits over its marketing promises and customers' relationship. And further, later on, it goes to say...
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Chapter 4: What are the challenges of meeting people in real life?
Did it say something about, like, false advertising?
Yeah, it's just further down in the article. So it says, Wow. In my experience, that's true.
Well, your experience says a lot because you came out and told us about this. You said that Hinge puts people in Rose Jail, quote unquote. Rose Jail. Let me repeat for those who don't know what Christina was talking about, I don't know, 40 episodes ago at this point, 700 episodes ago. A million years ago.
yeah she's on hinge and in order to communicate with some people or to let them know that you're thinking about them i guess to get ahead of the line you would send them a rose of which you're allowed one per week correct and then that rose indicates that you're the cream of the crop you're the best of the bunch you've given your rose to somebody it's like a special item you give to them to let them know you're at the top of their list right i assume also like socially embarrassing
Totally. Completely. Like, you have to give a rose to somebody to get their attention?
Or is it that you get the roses and that's... It's that you get the roses by paying. And it's like, oh, if you're paying for this, yikes.
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Chapter 5: How does Christina feel about her running experience?
Yeah, if you're paying for this, then the indication would be, or maybe the stereotype would be, what a loser. Why are you paying for him? Yeah, okay, gotcha. You know, I've shared this, and I'll share it now, is that I... Believe that there is not legally a lot of water to hold here. Like, I think that this happens. The gamification of everything is happening.
This is essentially a social media company. And even though dating is their game, that's it's a social media and social media has been gamified forever and ever. Likes, hearts, dislikes when that was a thing. You know, you don't pay for those things, but they are social currency in a way. And I don't think that hinges doing anything illegal, immoral, maybe, but an embarrassing probably.
And absolutely, you know, making dating tough on everybody. Yes. But is it illegal?
Chapter 6: What are the concerns around communication in relationships?
Probably not. Because when you think about it, like I was giving this example, you go to Disney World. In every commercial that you see for Disney World, these people are running around the park without anybody around them. There's like 30 people in the entirety of Magic Kingdom. And they're getting on every ride. And they're having a magical day.
And they're looking at the fireworks right from the front of the castle.
And no one's crying.
crying and no one is crying and if you have ever been to disney world or any disney related park or any theme park for that matter then you know that is horse shit they are going to charge you seven hundred dollars to get in you and your family seven hundred dollars just to get in the park and then they're going to make you pay additional money to get to the front of the line and everybody who's standing in line looks at those assholes and goes what what huh
What happened there? And then everybody who is in the line, the FastPass line, may feel one of two things. Either fools for not paying. Where's your pocketbook? Or number two, I'm embarrassed that I'm getting in front of all these people who have been standing in line for four hours. The gamification of everything is happening.
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Chapter 7: What is Bryan's perspective on the existence of ghosts?
And there is a price to be paid. So is it illegal? No. False advertising?
Maybe that's what I'm going to say. I was going to say, I think the false advertising thing is really where they actually have a shot because I, I mean, I've been complaining about this for years that their slogan is designed to be deleted. And I think they're full of shit because they literally like, they won't show you the people who you are most likely to connect with based on their algorithm.
They will not show them to you unless you pay for it.
Well, now, that is false advertising.
You have one chance to send a rose, but, like, the thing is, I mean, sending a rose is embarrassing anyway. But, like, at least in my view.
I'm sure a lot of other people feel the same way.
But that's personal to me. But, like, if you have to pay to see the people in your standouts in Rose Jail who are your most compatible or you're most likely to be in your league to like people to like you or whatever— If you have to pay to see them, then it's not designed to be deleted.
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Chapter 8: How do the hosts engage with their listeners?
It's designed for you to pay for it. Yeah. Well, which is like bullshit. So it is bullshit.
And now listen. OK, so this is like this is consumerism at its finest.
Right. It is essentially I give you stage capitalism.
Yeah. I give you the teat, but the milk will not come until you pay until you bite off on putting your credit card down. And this is what always happens with everything. Right. We all got on Facebook and then Facebook inundated us with advertisements and misinformation and, you know, propaganda. Propaganda from nation states, third world nation states.
I mean, that's and that's the way it always happens. You get hooked on the free, you pay for the better. And this is the way consumerism has been working for ever and ever and ever. And especially in the age of the Internet, when essentially their game is propaganda.
showing you who you could potentially be matched with they're in their minds and their shareholders minds why wouldn't we charge you extra to be then okay so but when you're telling people that this is what's going to happen regardless if you pay or not paying gives you some additional perks but regardless we're going to make sure that you get the people that you're intended to be hooked up with and they purposefully behind the scenes withhold until you do pay and then when you do pay it's a much better experience and you're like well fuck i guess i have to pay next month too like
then you're like i have to pay next month too so also like the the chart that the actual money is ridiculous 49.99 a month money so much money i wouldn't even pay that to go to a gym babe no and i could meet people there no this is this is it's like 49.90 month is that's like girl get a grip
Sister, I could pay for all the streaming apps, whack off, and never have another date, and I would be happy for $49.99 a month. That's a lot of money. That's a lot of fucking money.
That is so much money.
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