In this episode of the Podcast Giovanna Fletcher sits down with the unstoppable Sara Davies MBE, entrepreneur, star of Dragons’ Den and crafter. Couch to 5K has played a significant part in Sara’s life. It didn’t start with a dream of being fit or fast. It began with a warning from her mum that running would give her saggy boobs! But things changed dramatically a few years later, after a visit to the doctor.Giovanna discovers that Sara’s first taste of running came many years earlier. She and her friend decided to get fit and take part in the Great North Run so that they could arrive at university looking ‘fit and ‘sexy’ with runner’s bodies.Sara tells Giovanna that six years ago as she filmed her first series of Dragons’ Den, she realised she was overweight, two dress sizes bigger than she should be and without motivation. Seeing herself on national TV persuaded her to do something about it.She had a medical ‘MOT’ as she knew she had a background of gestational diabetes. The doctor advised her to start running. At first, the thought of committing time in a busy life seemed too much. The doctor prescribed a 5:30am start, Couch to 5K and off she went!Sara talks about the ups and downs of running as a busy mum and businesswoman. She tells the podcast she uses her runs to clear her head. And whenever work-stress, family-life or any other pressure gets too much, instead of lying in bed worrying, she’ll get out on an early morning run to help her clear her head. As she says, it’s like magic and she always comes back with the answer. Sara talks candidly about juggling life – the guilt of putting herself first, trying to sneak out of the house for an early morning run and always finding room for her trainers when travelling. She even used to run at 05:30am from the hotel to the studio ahead of a 14-hour shoot for Dragons’ Den for BBC TV.Giovanna teases out her stories from Strictly and Sara reveals that getting to be on Dragons’ Den was a move planned to give her an opportunity to appear on the dance show, which was her life's ambition. She was a female investor and also had 15 years experience presenting on Shopping TV and a friend called-up the BBC to persuade them to give her an audition to become a Dragon.At 40, she had another body ‘MOT’ as she’d become less fit and was putting on weight. Sara was told she was heading for pre-diabetes and got ‘the kick up the bum’ she needed. The doctor recommended running once more. Sara signed up for the Great North Run and got back to fitness and healthy eating.Sara’s fantasy run is very close to home in her beloved North East, yet a part of the country she only relatively recently discovered.This week we have two Couch buddies who’ve sent voice notes to Giovanna:Adam is 51 and from Wellingborough in Northamptonshire. He tells a remarkable journey of weight-loss. At one stage he was 38 stone. He started Couch to 5K at 21 stone. He now finds himself literally half the man he used to be. Adam had never run before. He’s now moved up through Park Run, 10K, half marathons and in 2025 the London Marathon. Couch, he says, has changed his life. And he loves it. Ellen is 25. She’s from Hackney in London and had never run before doing the Couch to 5K programme. She found it manageable but hard. Ellen still finds running humbles her. But she’s proud to commit to something she finds difficult. She say running is now part of her personalityFAQ's What is Couch to 5K?It’s a simple, free running plan for absolute beginnersHow do you do Couch to 5K?Download an app(details below) and away you go!Can you do Couch to 5K on a treadmill?Yes, on a treadmill or outside.How does Couch to 5K work?You will have a trainer in the app starting you off with a mix of running and walking.How long does Couch to 5K take?You’ll be going out 3 times a week for 9 weeks at a pace that feels right for you. You’ll run a little further each week. You can repeat weeks and take longer if you want to.You can download the NHS Couch to 5K app Apple: https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/nhs-couch-to-5k/id1082307672 Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phe.couchto5K&hl=en_GB&gl=USPresenter: Giovanna Fletcher Producer: Mark Shardlow Exec Producer: Katherine Hogan

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