Irish rugby's state of the union down under
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The Counter Ruck: The Irish Times Rugby Podcast
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Hello and welcome to the Counter Oak Rugby Podcast brought to you by the Irish Times in partnership with Oak Energy. Jerry Thornley is on route. He is now in Auckland. Having been in Sydney and Newcastle in Australia, he has, along with the Irish team, flown to New Zealand for the third and final week. of their nation's championship summer triple header we're going to touch on the japan game and see what jerry made of it from the ground in newcastle but also we're going to chat through david humphries media briefing that he did last week um he did it in between the first two matches sometimes these things can slip under the radar but given all the news stories regarding governance and contracts, et cetera, in Irish rugby, it's always good to hear from the man at the top of the rugby tree, so to speak.
So Jerry was there chatting to David Humphries. So we'll get his thoughts as well on what came out from that. So here's Jerry. Jerry Thornley, hello. Welcome back. Another week down in the Southern Hemisphere.
How did Gerry Thornley describe the atmosphere and outcome of Ireland vs Japan in Newcastle?
Japan 20, Ireland 36. General consensus I thought after the match was, given all the changes, you know, lack of cohesion, just in any sense, let alone when you change your team, but given some of the lack of rugby being played by this team, pretty positive, enough in it to kind of keep Andy Farrell happy. Was that the sense that he gave speaking to you after the match?
Yeah, very much so, yeah. I mean, he made allowances for it. I think he knew deep down that making, was it, nine changes is very added character for him. It was lots and lots of new combinations. Very, very callow bench. I always thought it was going to be a tricky match. I kind of forecast a 10 to 12 point victory. I see the bookies had it at 18. It transpired to be 16 in the end, but by his own admission, that possibly slightly flattered Ireland a little bit. They ultimately scored five tries to two. Some of the attacking rhythm was the short passing, the winners working in field, Jamie Osborne showing up well, Jimmy O'Brien showing up well, was classic Farrell rugby league style type attacking rhythms to it.
And it worked well at times. There were a couple of very good multi-phase tries in the first half. The main problem was the line-out and, to a lesser degree, the scrum. I don't know how many lines were lost then. It was five or six in total, a couple of crooked throws. And it set the tone with the overthrow. I thought that was as much a malfunction as an overthrow. It didn't seem like James Ryan had been fully extended to catch that first line-out. It was a really disappointing night for the set-piece coaches, Paul O'Connell and John Brogarty. And that seven points kind of set the tone. Even the second Japanese try emanates from a crooked throw by Ronan Keller, five metres out on their own line. The two three-pointers emanate from line-out malfunctions.
So you could almost say Japan's entire 20 points came from malfunctioning Irish line-outs. on top of which, you know, it's stymie momentum. So I thought it would be a scratchy enough game. I think any time there are four new caps, Nathan, and they were buoyant, all four of them were brought into what passed for a mixed zone. I wish all grounds could be like the McDonald, Jefferson Stadium in Newcastle, in that, you know, you could just wander around anywhere. You could just make up your own mixed zone, a very little, you know, heavy-handed security or anything like that. Lovely little altercation when Sam Miller was telling about how he'd I didn't realise when I first went into the mix zone, Nathan, that like Sam Miller and the Japanese dressing room was way down to the left corridor and the Irish dressing room was way down to the right corridor.
And Sam Miller appeared for what transpired to be the Japanese corridor. And he'd just been down to Eddie Jones, asked him why he'd made those comments about how he expected the Japanese scrum to dominate the Irish scrum. He thought it was a bit disrespectful. And just as he was telling this, Eddie Jones walked by, so...
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:04–1:02
2
How did Gerry Thornley describe the atmosphere and outcome of Ireland vs Japan in Newcastle?
1:02–4:42
3
What were the standout positives and problems from Ireland’s performance against Japan?
4:42–12:59
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How did the new caps (Illo, Bowen, Jansen, Bone) perform on their Ireland debuts?
12:59–21:10
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Why did Sam Illo confront Eddie Jones and what happened in the mixed zone?
21:10–31:59
Speakers
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