The guys react to a Jets victory on Thursday Night football. Todd McShay joins the show to discuss his new podcast and why he didn't name it the "ToddCast". Todd talks about how special both Caleb Williams and Jayden Daniels are and what he sees from the quarterbacks who will be available in the 2025 NFL draft. Chris Simms tells us what he is seeing from the Browns now that Jameis Winston is playing quarterback. Simms also gives his thoughts on a couple of quarterbacks who will be in the NFL draft. Plus, a sulky K-Funk has to deal with going 0-fer the week again while helping Mojo go undefeated again. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What was the reaction to the Jets victory?
God bless football, Mikey, eh? God bless football, Billy. Here we are. It's Friday. Big win for the Jets yesterday over the Houston Texans. We were talking a moment ago before we started recording. Not a good day for the people that fell for the trap of saying the Jets are favored in this. I'm going to take them.
That'd be me. I fell for that trap. Early in the week, I saw Jets minus one. Give me the Texans. Give them to me twice. And yeah.
So we discussed it yesterday on pregame power up on DraftKings Network with Trey Wingo. If the Jets win this game over the Texans, are you back in on the Jets? By the way, we are presented by Spirinoff, the world's number one vodka. Please drink responsibly. Also, We do game days. The Smirnoff Company, New York, New York. Now, we are going to be talking to Chris Sims later.
We're going to be talking to Todd McShay later. We're going to have our pick segment later. Stigatz is going to be joining us later as well. But, Mikey, I'll ask you now that the game has been played, because coming into it, you said if the Jets win, I'm definitely not back on the Jets and believing that they're going to make the playoffs, believing that they're going to go far in this.
But now that it's happened, you're back, right?
I'm still out, but I'm fighting it more than I thought I would be. I'm fighting that urge to be like, you know, they really can go on a run here because they can't go on a run. I said before, I was like, this is the game the Jets win. This is the game. They have no business beating the Houston Texans. The Houston Texans are a great team.
They were, what, 6-2 coming in, and the Jets have no business winning. But here we are, and I'm fighting myself not to go back.
I don't want to do Jets schedule talk because I feel like that's where this goes. But Cardinals, Colts, like you get right back in this.
Listen, Joe Flacco is good.
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Chapter 2: Why did Todd McShay name his podcast 'The McShay Show'?
He's a wonderful man. Yep. He really is a wonderful man. So I'm talking to him, lose track of where my son is and he thinks it's okay. Now I look over, he's in the end zone and I'm like, Oh sh**.
you know like i know and i'm all that's running through my head is like joe texting me like what are you doing stacy james with the patriots yelling at me and and so i look over and now the jets are coming out of the tunnel and braylon allen the rookie running back number zero and
comes running out and tate is like what's up man with his hand out and i'm like this isn't gonna end well and so i'm like jerry i gotta go so i start walking over and braylon was cool he looked around like what like this he's not supposed to be here and i thought he was gonna be like get out of here but he was cool he was like what's up buddy how you doing so that was the start of my day i thought we were gonna get kicked off the field within like five minutes of being there
Right. Uh, kudos to your son for acting like he owns the joint. I like that.
I mean, he gets a page out of your, your playbook, right?
Yes. Yes. But you're his dad, not me. So yeah.
Yeah. I mean, we had to have a conversation about that after, uh, I am certain you had a number of suitors.
I'm wondering how you ended up, how this deal came to fruition. You with the ringer. I'm excited for you. I'm just wondering how it all came about.
You know, when I, when I was laid off with a bunch of people at ESPN, um, I kind of made the decision a few months in after kind of being frustrated, going through all the emotions that when I go back, I want to do it my way.
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Chapter 3: What does Todd McShay think about Caleb Williams and Jaden Daniels?
And I remember watching a press conference where it was like, what are you guys talking about? We got our guy. Right. And I still like quarterback top three need like they're they're they're just they're playing coy. But he believed in him and that organization believed in him. And Ben Johnson, the coordinator, is a big part of it, too.
He's one of the brilliant minds in the NFL on the offensive side. And watching them, not only did they get him to a level where he's like, they can win without him screwing it up. Like, he is now to a level where he's one of the 10 best quarterbacks in the league, maybe seven, wherever that number is. And they're winning a lot of times because of him. How about Jameer Gibbs? So good.
Like, Brad Holmes, we – For a while, we didn't talk about Brett Veach in Kansas City, the general manager, and the job that he did because it's all about Andy Reid and Mahomes. And Brad Holmes, to me, is one of the great GMs in the NFL. It was a big FU. I get all these draft picks. And we're going to take a running back and get mocked.
And we're going to take an inside linebacker and get mocked and look at them now, you know, like, and a tight end. Then I think it was early second round just a couple of years ago. Look at those guys out in Jameer Gibbs. I mean, every time I look up, he's going for like a 40 plus yard touchdown run.
Yep.
Todd, it's nice to go down memory lane and all that, but I'm a Jets fan, so I'm already looking to next year and the quarterbacks coming out there. Yeah, I mean, we have to. But like this year, almost more than others, I feel like every week there's a different name we're hearing is this is the best quarterback coming out. So right now, as it stands, how do you have them rated coming out?
It's so it's interesting you talk to NFL scouts right and early in the year it was like yeah this is the Kenny Pickett Malik Willis draft like these quarterback you know.
Sounds like a Jets draft yeah yeah it's gotten better but but every time you want to like like this this week I was watching Ole Miss I'm not Ole Miss A&M LSU and Garrett Nussmeier I just love I still call it draft draft Twitter but draft X. It's like all of a sudden it was 17-7 and I'm going through the feed quickly because I'm getting ready for my first Saturday night show.
And it was like this orgy of draft geniuses on X, like clamoring over each other. Like, no, I had him first. No, he's my guy. No, I had him QB one four months ago. Meanwhile, he hadn't started – he started a bowl game last year. Right. So, like, it's just interesting to see. And remember, first half of Alabama – Georgia, it was like Jalen Milrow, QB1. I knew all along.
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Chapter 4: How is the Browns' quarterback situation evolving?
James would have a tackle in that game though, too.
Chapter 5: What are the challenges facing Anthony Richardson?
Chapter 6: Who are the top quarterbacks for the next NFL draft?
Well, first off, I feel like the Ravens get a free pass. Everyone anointed them the Kings and the best team in football. And I'm going to be like, what? They're five and three. They could have lost some other games, too. Yes. I don't understand. Just because there's a love affair for Lamar, which I understand. He's awesome. Yep.
But everyone's just like, oh, Lamar and Derrick Henry, they're going to the Super Bowl. Like, what? First off, they get a little pass happy. Again, last week, Cleveland, if there's a problem with their defense, you can run the ball. They run the ball 11 times. I don't understand that. And, yeah, the defensive side of the ball, Stu, has got issues. It does, yeah.
With the trade for Deontay Johnson, and, yeah, they need another corner or somebody like that or a pass rusher, something of that element. But obviously that's not presented itself in a trade package or anything like that. I think with the Deontay Johnson thing, they just showed you, forget it, we're just going to outscore everybody. That's what they're opting to do. Whatever.
And I would say this, and I said this on my pod Wednesday, when Baltimore tries to rush four and play zone or some side of coverage behind it, They're wasting their time. Don't even just walk off the field and go drink Gatorade because the team always gets a big play. They're better. Blitz every play. Go crazy. Send the house. Send the house.
Maybe you tip a pass, strip sack, fumble, get an interception. Nonetheless, let them go. If they don't, let them go down and score and get your offense back on the field. I would play a little more like Detroit does. Detroit goes, you're either going three and out or you're going to go down and score real quick.
But either way, Jared Goff and the company are coming back on the field and we're going to attack, attack, attack. And can you keep pace with us? And I feel like Baltimore needs to do that. Stop trying to be like the 2012 Baltimore Ravens. That day is done.
I think John Horvath would tell both of us. He would tell both of us, Kyle Hamilton catches that pass. We win that game. You're not saying what you're saying right now.
Well, yeah, I mean, I would still question the defense. No, the defense was battered up. And even with that play right there, you know, it looked like he should have caught it. We know that. Yes. Elijah Moore, Jameis Winston there. He was running on a certain angle. And as Jameis is throwing the ball, he did a shake and ran a different direction. So that really screwed it up.
Like people want to make fun of James to go, whoa, he'll give you one of those every game. That was more on Elijah Moore, but your point's real. But I still think, and I've been saying this even before last week, their defense is a problem. And that trade for Deontay Johnson, that to me kind of shows you they're going to go, you know, screw it.
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