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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 1: Amin's Week Long Observations

Thu, 17 Apr 2025

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Chapter 1: Who is Nico Harrison and why is he considered a villainous executive?

61.503 - 76.193 Amin Elhassan

I wanted to talk about Nico Harrison, and we'll get to that in a second because we've been a little late to this story. He is a fascinating figure. Somehow, just, we haven't had one like this, really, a villainous executive character. He doesn't know what he's doing.

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76.793 - 98.533 Amin Elhassan

Let's all laugh at him and then figure out how Dallas management explains worse and worse as they try to explain something that cannot be explained. Nico Harrison becomes a figure for a symbol, an avatar for management incompetence. There's the suit who takes the blame when he ruins everything, doesn't understand the emotion business, is an idiot and coldly tries to explain it.

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99.193 - 115.305 Amin Elhassan

And can't because he doesn't understand. Luka and those people had a relationship that you have to respect that. Did you guys not see what happened to that Super League? Because Europe actually respects it. It's like things, that thing fell apart because you can't just come over here and buy everything, rich people. That's not how it works.

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115.345 - 133.413 Amin Elhassan

Like the Luka relationship is not supposed to be something with your Super Maxi, your Super Maxi Max, whatever. You're not supposed to be able to just come in and buy that relationship because you don't care for it. Like it's why it was so confusing. So we'll get to that in a second. We got to get to Mad Dog as well, because Zazz is telling me I got to play some Mad Dog sound.

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133.433 - 147.304 Amin Elhassan

Oh, man, it will not disappoint. I have not. I have not heard. But I wanted to get a means perspective on as an executive and and somebody from basketball specifically watching Travis Hunter come over to football.

148.137 - 171.292 Amin Elhassan

with what I'm assuming we're all going to believe is an empty threat, but it's just a wild thing to say, entering the league, telling your future employer, a league that has proven to be fairly conservative in terms of giving people like you the power you presently want, which is to strut into the league as the Deion Sanders thing and say, hey, who do I work for here? I don't work for you.

171.573 - 187.047 Amin Elhassan

If you don't play me both positions, offense and defense, whether you think it's right or not with me as an asset, I choose, I'll quit on the spot. Now, I want to say it's an empty threat, but God, I hope it's not an empty threat.

187.327 - 191.492 Joe Rogan

If you don't allow me to work more than anyone else, game over. I quit.

Chapter 2: Why does Travis Hunter want to play both offense and defense in the pros?

192.079 - 212.831 Dan Le Batard

That's my favorite part about all this, is that, like, we're all pretending that these teams are gonna say, no, you've gotta pick one! And I'm just waiting for the team to draft and say, yeah, go ahead. And then, like, after a week of OTAs, he's like, Jesus Christ, this is a lot harder than I, can I just pick one? No, no, you said you were gonna quit, you gotta do two.

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213.111 - 220.476 Dan Le Batard

And then run him ragged all summer long. By the time we get to camp, he'll be begging to play one position, and it'll be special teams. He doesn't even wanna do anything else.

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221.135 - 241.987 Amin Elhassan

What an interesting way to look at it and probably doesn't really explain how we lovers of sport could explain to you. Well, wait a minute. If he could do it in college, why couldn't he do it in the pros? And you're saying it'll run him too ragged because it'll be just way too much. All of it's too much. But he doesn't think it is.

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242.247 - 257.891 Dan Le Batard

Dan, this happens to us in the NBA all the time where there are players who are like, they don't run any plays for me, man. Where's the play? Why don't you get me the ball? I'll do it. And finally the coaches will be like, you know what? All right, clear out for him. Give him the ball. And then force feed him for a quarter. And then when that player realizes, like, shit, this is hard.

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258.191 - 277.617 Dan Le Batard

Like creating against a defense that's waiting for me and no one's helping me. Never mind. I get it. I like my role. It's a lot easier to just cut and make layups. Same thing here. You can talk about what you want and play. Trust me, when I hear language like that, I'll quit and all that, that doesn't sound like, to me, the player. That sounds like people around the player.

277.657 - 296.343 Dan Le Batard

Man, you know what you should do, man? You should tell them you quit. All the people hyping them up. Like, yeah, yeah, it would be so great for your brand, dude, if you played both. You'd be the first guy like, yeah, yeah, I could do it. I did do it in college. And then you find out, oh, everyone here was elite in college. Everyone here is great at their job.

296.744 - 314.27 Dan Le Batard

And it's not just the physical demands, but I mean, we'll talk to Hawk tomorrow and ask him about it. How much, I talked to Hawk about this last Friday. I said, how many meetings did you guys have? He said, we had a team meeting, and then we had the offense meeting, and then we had wide receivers meeting, and then we had the special teams meeting. Now, double all that shit for this kid.

Chapter 3: What are the challenges of playing two positions in professional football?

314.77 - 333.29 Dan Le Batard

Forget about the physical part, Dan. All the homework, all the playbooks, all the video, all that stuff, it's so much work. And then you realize, wait a second, I don't get to hang out with my girlfriend who wants to be a brand too and wants me to support her and the things she wants to do. I don't get to hang out with my friends.

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333.75 - 351.747 Dan Le Batard

I'm basically all day long doing homework and that, add on to that, the physical demands of Jesus, I'm exhausted, I'm getting hit all the time. There's a reason why nobody does it. It's not because we're too conservative. It's because it's too much to ask of one person. But he'll find out the hard way.

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352.127 - 363.595 Tony

You can't split yourself, right? And that's the thing. If you're going to be a wide receiver, you need to be committed to being the best wide receiver you can be. If you're committed to being a cornerback, you have to be at the cornerback's meeting and the DB's meeting and do all the things you've got to do. Hawk said it the other day.

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363.855 - 372.241 Tony

You cannot split yourself and try to input all that information and then on top of that go out on the field and then practice on one side and then practice on the other. You're just running back and forth, back and forth.

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373.141 - 381.586 Joe Rogan

Isn't that why we don't see more Shohei Ohtani? Like either you're a pitcher or you're a hitter. Like you can't do both. You need to dedicate full time.

381.626 - 408.97 Amin Elhassan

Well, but the part that I simply don't understand in the examination of this is there would appear to be a disconnect between however it is that Travis Hunter thinks. football playing is that would make him the best at all the things that he tries and now in the dion sanders household i don't know if you any any of you watch the dion reality series like what dion has done to get to the top

409.671 - 427.45 Amin Elhassan

of a salary bigger than Bill Belichick's in college sports is he took an athlete, a couple of athletes so supreme, his son the lesser of them, and he built a college football team the hardest way through black colleges when everyone told him you can't do it, can't do it, can't do it. He conquered college football, told Travis Hunter he was going to do it.

427.47 - 429.331 Amin Elhassan

Travis Hunter was the number one recruit in the land.

429.671 - 454.008 Amin Elhassan

Now Travis Hunter gets to the league, and you guys are saying, the way you're analyzing this is because of what his path is with whatever the business of doing football with Deion Sanders was, because Deion Sanders thinks it's easy, and because for Travis Hunter it has been easy, Travis Hunter thinks that what the pros are is not something much harder than what he has already done, and he has the confidence that he,

Chapter 4: How does professional football compare to baseball in terms of physical demands?

654.533 - 669.502 Amin Elhassan

No, but he's having trouble going between the sports. He's trying to dance between basketball, football, and baseball. He got stuck with the Miles. It's a good question, though. I mean, the physical nature of what it is that we're talking about, though, I'm actually interested in the mechanics of Travis Hunter's mind here.

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670.242 - 689.927 Amin Elhassan

Because it strikes me that he's so confident, so arrogant, with arrogance that's earned, right? We can't say it's not earned. Him and Deion, and they just conquered college football for all the money and got Deion a bigger contract than Belichick's. They won the biggest bet the biggest way. Dan.

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690.447 - 698.836 Dan Le Batard

They were 13-12 over the last two years. What did they conquer? Okay, they got paid. All right, a lot of people got paid. Colorado was terrible, though.

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699.276 - 701.278 Amin Elhassan

They were a terrible franchise. 13-12 over two years.

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701.298 - 702.359 Joe Rogan

I don't think they won a bowl game either.

702.379 - 716.973 Amin Elhassan

Wait a minute, guys. So they were the worst program, and then he made them matter, which is all that matters. Like, okay, yeah, and they weren't that good, and they've got two top picks, but Travis Hunter believes he built all that. Can he not take credit for saying, yes, I was the best? Sure.

717.513 - 732.801 Amin Elhassan

And when he says I can do both, why is his understanding so limited that we can see, Travis, this is way too hard. You're not going to want to do it in nine days. You're not going to have a life. It's not possible to do full time on both sides.

733.061 - 748.13 Dan Le Batard

Dan, I'll give you a great example as far as the difference between the pros and college. Because you can do things in college. We had a saying when I worked in the league, which is, everyone's got a scrapbook. Like, I was, yeah. Look around. Everyone here was all-time leading scorer, all-time something, right?

749.131 - 772.461 Dan Le Batard

The other night, I'm in Golden State in San Francisco watching Warriors versus Grizzlies. It was a good game. It was a good game. Zach Eady gets a one-on-one in the block against Quinton Post, a name no one had heard of six months ago. And he couldn't even take advantage of that. And I turned to the guy next to me and I said, a year ago, this guy was the player of the year in college basketball.

Chapter 5: What is the significance of Deion Sanders' approach to college football?

886.824 - 886.804 Dan Le Batard

287.

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886.844 - 887.264 DraftKings Network Announcer

Craig Biggio with 285.

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891.707 - 894.668 Roy

Anthony Rizzo, the all-time leader for left-handed hitters.

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895.708 - 913.612 Amin Elhassan

So, Jeremy, pitch clock is around the corner here, and I'm looking forward. I decided yesterday after that time with Kirshen that I'm going to do something. What I would like to do here is with Zaslow tomorrow night, I want to have all the stakes around Zaslow watching this game for all the stakes. Is that what we're doing? Yeah, yeah, we're going to figure it out.

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913.772 - 934.595 Amin Elhassan

Look, as content, it has not worked. But we're going to figure out an all or nothing consequence to Zaslow will either work here for free during the hockey playoffs or he will not get any of these tickets. However it is, we're reverse engineering it because I'm telling you he will not have these tickets if he does not win whatever this bet is.

934.735 - 938.619 Joe Rogan

All right, so tomorrow night, Tony, you got the board there.

938.719 - 939.84 Amin Elhassan

I'm looking at it.

939.86 - 940.861 Joe Rogan

Can you give it to me again?

941.281 - 959.218 Amin Elhassan

Joe, this is what I'm telling you, Tony. This must happen, okay? There has to be a game tomorrow night that our fan base cares about enough to watch. a Heat game, when they are sick of our show caring about the Heat. This is where the last embers of all the Heat shit goes to die. Zaslow says, no, it's not. It's a freight train.

Chapter 6: How does the transition from college to pro sports affect player performance?

1046.794 - 1046.954 Ad Reader

Brutal.

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1047.074 - 1068.767 Joe Rogan

Terrible loss at home. I was never more down until, of course, in 2023, Derek White game six. That right there was the lowest point maybe of my life. But at the time in 2012, I was despondent after the Heat lost that game because, of course, you know, the blueprint's on the line and we're about to go. That's not the picture right there. I mean, that's mean, okay?

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1068.907 - 1084.116 Joe Rogan

I'm not the kid from, what is that? No, no, no. That's not me. No one would ever say that that's me. But Sedano, he snapped a picture of me after the game where I'm sitting underneath the bowels in like a media room.

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1084.136 - 1098.145 Amin Elhassan

We will find that picture, and we've shown it before. It's a dirty move. It was a betrayal. Look, there have been a couple of betrayals today, all right? Zaslow just found out for the first time that we stole his bit. Yeah. Finally. And we don't execute it well, and nobody does their punishments.

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1098.245 - 1103.39 Joe Rogan

I had to do a floor gymnastics floor routine in a leotard. That's good.

1105.351 - 1116.941 Jeremy

Ah, the breaking news. It never stops. Adam Schefter tweets. That was no enthusiasm there. What happened? That was so boring. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Yeah. We are back.

1117.262 - 1118.444 Amin Elhassan

What just happened to him?

1118.484 - 1122.831 Jeremy

This is actually not the happiest story ever. That's why I was getting into news breaking.

1122.891 - 1124.233 Amin Elhassan

Okay, is it your heavy tongue?

Chapter 7: What are the stakes involved in Zaslow’s upcoming game night challenge?

1243.24 - 1251.951 Amin Elhassan

What inside info? As ESPN Radio insider Jonathan Zaslow reports, Chris, did you just defer to Zaslow because Zaslow works for ESPN?

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1252.051 - 1254.895 Joe Rogan

Well, and I travel for college football season.

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1254.915 - 1257.578 Amin Elhassan

But you don't own a coat and you've never been anywhere in the world.

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1258.099 - 1259.781 Joe Rogan

I may have to do a little shopping.

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1259.941 - 1279.689 Amin Elhassan

Okay, now wait a minute. You're not ready to be a star of any sort. Look at that. Look what becomes a star at ESPN right here. A total homer betrayed by Sedano. Weasel move by Sedano. Okay, so this is, when was this? Oh, this is the blueprint on the line game. Yep, right before, yeah. So listen to me. Do you understand the stakes of Pearl Jam tomorrow night?

1279.969 - 1292.794 Amin Elhassan

This night, Zadzo, you'll be watching the face of the Miami Heat. Do you not understand the moment we have as art? Jonathan Zaslow would say to you, Mike Ryan says I invented Heat Twitter. Zaslow would like a word.

1294.035 - 1294.935 Joe Rogan

That is a claim.

1295.756 - 1308.641 Amin Elhassan

Zaslow would like a word. Zaslow would tell you he invented Heat Twitter as much as Mike Ryan invented Heat Twitter. I don't think Zaslow would make such a bold claim, but he wouldn't say that Mike Ryan is more entitled to it than he is.

1309.901 - 1326.672 Joe Rogan

Look, I was doing the Heat fan thing When no one was, it was all Dolphins down here, all right? Everyone on the air loves the Dolphins or played for the Dolphins. I'm like, yo, step aside. Miami Heat, that's where it's at. And then they traded for Shaq, and away we go.

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