The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Mike & Dave Got Everything Wrong (feat. Dave Dameshek & Matthew Berry)
12 Sep 2025
Chapter 1: What did Mike Ryan and Dave Dameshek get wrong in Week 1?
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That's 20% off your first order with code DAN at liquidiv.com. Roy, why are you laughing? Oh, Jeremy jinxed him. I was, hey, good read. It's a long read. Are you still a nervous reader, Chris? No, I think I'm actually... Remember Sheets and Giggles? I mean, I've come a long way. Okay, so you were on with Damoshek. You and your father were on with Damoshek.
And this has only happened a couple of times around here. It's a very good show, Football America. It's a new Metal Ark production I've enjoyed. what Damoshek is doing. But Warren Sharpe, we had him one time to sell his wares around here, and every single thing that he picked went wrong that week. And I think he went 0-14 or 0-16 and gave listeners a discount because he was so ashamed.
His information's great. That day, he got everything wrong. I'm sitting here telling everybody how good this podcast is with Damoshek, and you and Mike Ryan and RFK, you got every game wrong. Your information was good, your analysis was good, but you got every single game wrong, the two of you. And new facts matter. Look, Dan, there are a lot of football teams out there.
We picked the wrong ones on this day. Look, listen, Bobby Jr. and Boomer Berman. That was Berman. That was not RFK. No, no, no. Keep up. You know, it was RFK and Boom. I saw on the show it was RFK and Boomer, but we haven't established the show here, and so he just did Berman, and people thought he was doing RFK. That sounded like a bad RFK, I'm not going to lie.
People are going to think he was doing RFK. He was doing Boom. Teej, look, you got the New York Jets. You got the Buffalo Bills. You got the New England Patriots. Look, there are a lot of teams in the AFC East. But the Miami Dolphins are truly atrocious. Back on the blitz. That's Patrick Mahomes, and you're back on the blitz. Crutch didn't save it at the end. It always saves it.
It may not sound like him, but it kind of sounds like him. The words he would say. No, but when he said no, that's the thing, though. You don't know it's totally Berman until he says back on the blitz. That's right. And he doesn't have any other moves. I just got to say, listen, the rainbow emotions down there in Miami right now.
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Chapter 2: How did Dave Dameshek critique the Packers' uniforms?
A lot of good times if you're a Packers fan, but not a lot of championships. Just two. Same as the Ravens in that stretch of time. Well, that's why I would argue that Aaron Rodgers is the greatest quarterback I've ever seen and an underachiever. That's a well, then we park our cars in the same garage, don't we? Yes. Well, but what's it going to be for your Steelers, though?
Because you thought that game was going to go much differently. In fact, when I'm listening to your podcast while I'm entertained and while I know the nutrients are good, you got nothing right. I don't know about that. I mean, I said, first of all, I called the Monday nighter on the nose. I said that the Vikings would win that game by three, and so they did. Yeah, wire to wire. Dominated.
Had it all the way. Yeah, you were never nervous about that one. Well, I think... For me, the big takeaway of week one is the range in kicking performances and how it has impacted the last five days worth of conversation, at least the assumptions we've made about who is better than whom and all of that. really pivoted largely off of the performances of the kickers out there.
I mean, the celebration on the banks of the Three Rivers in Pittsburgh, fine, Aaron Rodgers was very good, but so was Justin Fields. So they basically played to a wash. The difference was Chris Boswell making 56 and 60-yard field goals, whereas Nick Falk missed an extra point, which ultimately forced them to go for two, which they missed, and they fumbled a kickoff. That's the one, though.
The Jets released, what is it, Gibson? The Jets released the dude who fumbled. They might as well have done it right on the field. But you've gotten, how many years in a row have you gotten the Steelers record correct within a game? Yeah, it's been at least a dozen years that I haven't missed by more than one game. I haven't been on the nose every single season, but I've been very close to it.
But that game didn't make any sense, right? It was the lowest total of the week and it was offense galore. Is that what Aaron Rodgers is going to be? No. I mean, the assumption is, of course, that the defense will not allow 30-some points to Justin Fields or any other quarterback on the regular. They are built.
To dominate defensively and grind you up on offense and try to limit what the future Hall of Fame quarterback can do positively or negatively to impact the outcome of the game. They really have to lean on him. I don't want to be too cynical about it.
i didn't think but then aaron rogers said the same thing i said so i don't feel so bad like i'm attacking the guy i don't think he was moving as great as people seem to think he was yes there was some of the old play action gentle role to the right that made him the hall of fame qb he is but boy he did not look as nimble as he did let's say five years or so ago and so i think that that's going to be informative to the defense's upcoming and
Here comes one to Pittsburgh now in Seattle that didn't win last week, but that is a mighty unit. And I do think another well, I predicted a low scoring game. Jets Pittsburgh. I'm going to do it again here. I think that the Steelers and Seahawks do not put a lot of points on the board. And the bookmakers agree. Thirty nine and a half is where I see that number right now for the total.
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Chapter 3: Who is the greatest No. 7 in football history according to the discussion?
So close. Look at that piping on the pants. Look at those stripes on the sleeves. Look at the collar. Look at that beautiful gold popping with the white contrast. It is almost totally put together, except... for the helmet. No gold on the helmet whatsoever. A simple gold stripe down the middle would make this a great alternate uniform, not a good one.
And it's literally made a potentially great uniform bad. Did they want to save money on helmet stripes? What is this? Mike, this is, I would rather you save this for Football America Fashion Corner, but fine. Let's have this conversation. I thought it was faux pass. Well, we don't, well, Dan, if you want to throw some, we're pooling Football Americans out there to land on the perfect name.
A range of great options has been presented to us. I think I really like drip drill is a good one that just came across. Mike, you're so close. But you're just missing it here. The gold on the hat would be fine. How about this? Let's go more Spartan. Literally, kind of, because it would look like Sparty Michigan State. Get rid of the gold altogether and just go white and green.
That would look pretty cool too, right? I mean, I think you'd be the New York Jets at that point. So like, I love the gold of the Green Bay Packers. I like that contrast. I like it popping. This one's right there for me. We can agree to disagree. But one thing that we can both agree on is this is an imperfect uniform because they did a half measure. That's right. What it looks is unfinished.
It feels like it was 4.59 p.m. on a Friday, and they're like, ah, close enough. Let's go, Ken. Put it on the poll at Levitard Show. Did the Packers alternate uniforms look unfinished? Watch Football America twice a week, Mondays and Fridays on YouTube at Football America Show. What happened with the kickers? Can Do you have any solve with the kickers?
I was saying earlier this week that no jury would have convicted Miles Garrett if he had strangled whatever the name of that Browns kicker is with all the syllables in his name or all the letters in his name that aren't vowels. Well, to me, I think we need a severe solution to kicking in the NFL. It's become a plague that they're too good.
It was never intended for guys to be able to run out there and swing entire games by making 58-yarders with any regularity and 60-yarders and all of that. I say... That we have to go back to the root cause, which was back in the 60s when somebody showed up from Europe and said, I'm going to sidewind it.
You know, I don't know where this voodoo came from and who signed off on it, but maybe we just have to make it head on kicking or shame the devil. No sidewinders to limit the amount. You know, Paul Hornig. the Heisman Trophy winner, the golden boy from Notre Dame and Hall of Famer with the Packers and all of that. Do you know he was Vince Lombardi's kicker into the early 60s?
And in his last season as the place kicker, he made 33% of all of his field goal attempts. I like that. I think that's what we need to get back to. I find it unsatisfying that games all come down to a guy who has nothing to do with the entire rest of the game. It is our funniest position in major sports.
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Chapter 4: What predictions does Dave Dameshek make for the upcoming games?
It's our weirdest one. Is there any comp to it? Maybe a goalie in the NHL is about... These guys, it's people running into each other on purpose and they're gigantic human beings. And then all of a sudden, a little fellow runs out with a single bar face mask to decide the result of the game. It's bizarre at minimum, right? No, it's asinine. The whole thing, the whole construct of it.
But it's called football and they can't go back now. Well, we could. Well, like I've said before, we've talked about it. I think what one thing you could do is put the crossbar on top of the two goal. I don't want to do this again with you. Why not? That's a great idea. That's a great idea. And how about this?
How about that in order to be eligible to kick field goals or to kick extra points in a game, you have to play, let's say, three or five snaps from the line of scrimmage. We don't need this specialization. You know, we now live in an age where Travis Hunter is playing. He's catching passes and he's trying to intercept passes. And Shohei Itani hits and he pitches.
The running backs now are required to catch passes as well as take handoffs. We've transcended specialization now. So let's get rid of the kickers. And the more you can do Swiss Army Knife, who's the best kicker on the defensive line like Indomitian Sioux, you're in. I think that's a good idea, Dan.
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Chapter 5: What insights does Matthew Berry provide for Fantasy Football?
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Chapter 6: How does the performance of kickers affect NFL games?
You're new around here. Put it on the poll at Levitard Show. Is the kicker the weirdest, funniest position in all of sports? I'd nominate the long snapper. Put it on the poll as well at Levitard Show. Weirder, funnier career choice, kicker or long snapper? Because that's a terrible way to go through life.
Like you're just always looking under, you know, you're looking down through your legs all the time. And no one cares whether you're good at your job, except for that one time you make a mistake. It's the same sort of thing. My boy, I don't know why he volunteered for this on his football team. He has decided to be the long snapper and is now doing that.
And I don't want to get in his head with my negativity. But of course, you just said exactly what I was like. Great boy. But, you know, no one's ever going to notice you unless you screw up. I don't like that.
not exactly the game that you're playing dave because like the position is weird i understand but like it's usually occupied by weirdos people say this about kickers but in the nhl they say this about goaltenders and closers typically a little off what would be the position dan if you could choose any in sport what would be your preferred spot you can take any of the four major sports oh backup quarterback that's that's that's a good smart one yeah i thought out
I think that's ā but I would like ā I'm vain enough that I would want a little of the shine. And so I would want to be a ā I would want to be in the bullpen because I wouldn't want to be near the skipper where he could ā Oh, but you're asking me ā but in your hypothetical, I have to assume the risk as well, right?
So you're putting me in a position where I actually have to worry about Miles Garrett. Me, not as a quarterback, but me. You could be a good holder. It doesn't make enough money. It doesn't make enough money. It's not a good career choice. I think, to me, to be out in the bullpen away from the boss man where you can do your own thing and talk to the fans and once in a while you get in.
I mean, maybe like being a platoon corner outfielder would be pretty cool, too, because then you play. You don't play every day. You want to play some of the time. That's the problem with backup QB is that you never get into the game. No, Dave, you were going down the perfect track. The mop-up duty long reliever, right? Because you're down 7-2 in the fifth inning or the sixth inning.
They bring in this guy. No matter how he performs after the game, Skipper's like, hey, he gave us some huge innings in saving that bullpen for a later date. He really helped us out. Great job by him. Even if he's terrible, it's the perfect role. Dave's right. You want to be the fourth outfielder. You want to be Ross Glode. Get a couple at-bats a week.
Right, because it's like being the Chargers in the Peyton Manning draft. Like, you want to beāif you're the fourth outfielder, it's basically like being the Chargers after they already took Peyton Manning. Like, well, what did you want us to do? We had to take Ryan Leaf. Peyton was already gone. If you're the fourth outfielder, there is inherent lack of pressure on you.
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Chapter 7: What is the significance of team uniforms in football culture?
John Elway and Boomer Esiason went head to head back in the 80s and 90s. So to that extent, yes, John Elway is safely in there. To all extents. There's a better number seven at quarterback than John Elway. I mean, you don't think Ben Roethlisberger is at least a viable option?
I mean, they won the same number of Super Bowls, and Elways were more attributable to Terrell Davis, I think we can agree, right, in the twilight of his career. That being said, I always give Elway credit. I think that playoff wins for a quarterback are, in fact, a statistic in the postseason. Otherwise, what's the point of having a postseason?
But his greatest deed, Elway, was dragging those bum rosters in the 80s to Super Bowl. How do you reconcile, though, when you're talking about the measurements on some of these things? Ben Roethlisberger, I feel like, had a good deal more help than John Elway did the entirety of his career. And you're mentioning the last stretch for John Elway when he actually won the championships.
But that's not even who I'm thinking of when I think of Elway the quarterback. What do you mean? What are you thinking of? At the end of his career, Peyton Manning won the championship and he had nine touchdowns and 17 interceptions. I didn't need the proof of his championships. You say playoff wins are a stat for a quarterback, so your assessment of Lamar Jackson is what?
is that he needs to take care of business in January or else he does not make the short list of greatest quarterbacks in the history of people. I mean, it's as simple as that. And the same fate awaits Josh Allen. And it's funny that you bring this up, Dan, because, of course, I brought it up to Greg and to Chris Cody earlier in the week.
I'd love to get your thought on this as well, just like I did the Cody's. Maybe a hot take for people. I'm not trying to ruffle feathers down there in Miami. I say for all of his rightly legendary status in pro football history, Don Shula failed Dan Marino. Dan Marino would have won a title if his head coach hadn't been outmoded.
Don Shula was great, obviously the architect of those early 70s games. That's what you did with the Cody's on your podcast. You did Marino. Did Don Shula face Marino? You did a show that would have been great in 1985. That's right. Well, as far as 1985 goes, I also floated this bit of positivity for the Dolphins fans.
I mean, it gets the asterisk of the shameful loss to the New England Patriots in the title game in the rainy Orange Bowl. But if Marino and company would have survived Craig James and Mosey to two boo and Steve Grogan on that rainy day, they would have gone to the Superdome for a rematch against the Chicago Bears, who, of course, you know, they vanquished on Monday Night Football.
I think the same thing would have happened again, and then you really throw pro football history Super Bowl air on its ear by saying that the greatest single-season defense, or at least the one that people hold up as being that, would have not won a Super Bowl, and Dan Marino would have won one. There are few moments that are stronger inflection points than that game. So you are absolutely right.
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Chapter 8: What are the latest trends in Fantasy Football strategies?
It's nourishing. And put all your money opposite the things that him and the fake RFK said. Now Bobby Jr. is responsible for those bad picks, not Damoshek. Don't put that on me. See you later. Good talking to you. More football to talk about this weekend. Since we were talking about kickers, it was delightful to learn last weekend that the University of South Florida has a grammatica back there.
Nico, carrying on the family tradition of I would say put them next to each other. More famous name associated with something. The Wallendas or the Grammaticas? Because when I saw Nico Grammatica, what a precious, precious heirloom. That's the greatest kicking family in the history of kicking, is it not? In the weird, funny position, that's royalty.
There is no name you associate with kicking more than that, not Vinatieri, as a family, correct? There's no such thing. The Flying Grammaticas, yeah. They are the kicking family. He was there last year. He was in, like, a shared role. They only brought him in for long kicks. He made a long kick against Miami last year. I was like, how do they keep making these down here in the Tampa area?
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College football-wise, South Florida and Nico Dramatica kicking the ass of Florida. How much trouble is Billy Napier in? Because the expectations of Florida have changed, and I dare say... Mario Cristobal has changed them, right? Because I wasn't expecting anything from FSU this season.
FSU going from 13-1 to whatever they were, 2-10, 2-11, 2-12, whatever the hell they were last year, is something I've never seen before, never mind in the state of Florida. I've just never seen it in college football, where you go one season to the next, and that's what it is. So I didn't expect anything from Florida State this year, and they were better than I expected in the first game.
I expected something from Florida last year, and then the first game, Cam Ward took away my interest in anything Florida-related. They were very strong at the end of the season. is doing some heavy lifting there. They were stronger, much stronger at the end of last season than they were the first half of the season, which ruined Billy Napier, and I didn't think he would recover from it.
And then he loses at home to South Florida with a player spitting in the face of someone costing the game as an 18-point favorite. Where are we with the Florida Gators? We just had a week ago three of the top teams in Florida were in the top 15, and Florida clearly, first time out with that distinction, shit itself. I think they were a media fabrication entering the season.
I think people paid attention to them fighting for their head coach a little bit and thought that that was some sort of predictive analysis and didn't really pay attention to the talent that they lost. And while they did well in the portal, they did well in the portal with just outside guys and they were pretty strong at receiver anyways. So they didn't, they got smaller along the trenches.
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