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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
This is the Dan Lebitard Show with the Stugatz Podcast. This episode of the Dan Lebitard Show is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours.
So we're having fun. It's a big day. It's a busy day. And there's a lot going on because this thing that we're doing, Draft Special tonight, a race for Super Zagactos, is going to be the best draft coverage you will find anywhere if you don't care about the draft in ways that... are too serious because we will have good information for you. It will be in there. People more informed than us.
I'm not going to speak for Trista and Mike, but more or Zaz on this matter, because I think you three really know college football. And so you will be excited tonight and you will help us fill this out. But I cannot tell you about, you know. the offensive guard at Georgia. And I'm not going to pretend like I can. David Sampson is pissed off, though. We're about to have fun all day today.
And David Sampson's mad because we can't get his audio right or he can't get his audio right. And he's blaming us because he's always on time and he's ready and he's particular and he can be a perfectionist. And so what is happening right now with his audio? Because I want to talk to him about that. about this Vrabel story.
We can hear him. He can't hear us. So we keep doing the thing of like, maybe come out, come back in. Are you got the right headphones selected? And he thinks it's on our end and we're pretty convinced it's on his. That's always the go-to, right? It's not working. Hey, why don't you come out and come back in? And then check your headphones, make sure the right headphones.
All right. So just keep him up there and he'll get in on the conversation when he can. I wanted to start in the place because we were talking during the break about just iconic Marlins home runs. And I know that we're out of the local hour now.
And I do want to, and we'll get to this Vrabel story, but I did want to finish the conversation that we were having because I'm sitting here celebrating Chandler Simpson of my beloved Rays and the way that he just hits the ball on the ground and runs all over the place. as the entire sport has gone to exit velocity and lift.
And we started talking about Marlins home runs and people least likely to hit a Marlins home run. And somebody here nominated D Gordon for the most iconic home run in Marlins history. That's a thing that happened. That's a thing that'll make David Sampson, that robot emotional because, uh, He suffered hurt with the death of Jose Fernandez for ways that extended beyond baseball.
The Dee Gordon home run, was it the first pitch after he died? A non-home run hitter? It was the first at bat, though.
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Chapter 2: Why is David Sampson upset about his audio issues?
And with the former Marlins team president here, really interested in his feedback to this list. The greatest home runs in Miami Marlins franchise history. Oh, well, lie. Andres Galarraga goes upper deck.
Bar this home run in pro player stadium history. Got you on your heels.
Yes, that's an opponent. He did not play for the Marlins. By the way, just two nights ago, I saw Giancarlo Stanton hit a home run over the Fenway wall. I've never seen a human being hit the ball as far as he did. I'm saying, I know this is routine now, and I know Otani hits the ball out of stadiums, but what he did hitting a ball out of Fenway Park, I've never seen someone hit a ball like that.
When it went out of view, it was still ascending.
Yeah, was it still on the way up when it went over the wall?
It didn't land on the street behind the stadium. It landed like several blocks away.
Also, OLI, Stanton sets a franchise record. Also, OLI, Jose Fernandez starts a bench-clearing brawl with a home run.
He spit on third base. Spit on third base. Brian McCann.
I spit on third base. And final OLI, Ken Griffey Jr. 's 600th home run.
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Chapter 3: What are Mike's Top 5 Iconic Home Runs in Marlins History?
Number four.
Paula Duca. Hits a home run. Yes. In the middle of a game that he just joined in progress after being acquired. A pinch hit home run in his first A.B.S.
Yes. He got off the plane, Dan. The game already started. He came right to the clubhouse and he hit a home run. I sat next to Paul LaDuca at Barstool for two years. I didn't know he even played for the Marlins.
Really? You thought he was just a horse racing expert?
Well, I knew he played baseball. I just didn't really care where. Like, I didn't look into it.
Oh, I'm just seeing right here, I miss an OLI. Stanton breaks a video board. Number three. Miguel Cabrera goes yard. Good placement. Off Roger Clemens.
That's got to be number one. No, no it's not. Cabrera opposite field as a rookie? No, it's not number one.
Number two. Alex Gonzalez.
Walk-off. That's number one. I was responsible for that. They don't win the World Series if he doesn't hit that home run.
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Chapter 4: What emotional significance does Dee Gordon's home run hold?
How much did it cost you? Five figures more than the Vrabel Rossini photographs. The Alex Gonzalez walk-off, Zaz, I have no idea how people don't understand this. Without that home run, we cannot win the World Series.
Of course! That's why it's obviously number one. You can't win the World Series without Josh Beckett. If I don't go back to my seat there... They don't get that home run.
But here's the thing. This is why your guys are underestimating what Cabrera did going opposite field off Clemens. Standing ovation Clemens in the opposing ballpark. Standing ovation Clemens. That's the coolest home run. Because he fooled us, though. He fooled us. No, but the thing about that home run is I remember the pitches before it because he was throwing under his chin.
I don't remember the pitches before Alex Gonzalez's home run.
Most badass home run, it's Miguel Cabrera. And that includes a dude that broke a video board. And his legacy is there's like this little netting in front of the video board now to ensure no one else has to pay five grand. Can't believe Dontrell didn't make the list.
One of my worst moments in baseball was going to Jeremy Hermita after his in his first game. Mike, you had the memory right in that it was a It was a grand slam pinch hit first at bat. It was unheard of. And we were in the clubhouse at pro player right after the game. And I said to him, the rest of your career is downhill from here.
And he and I still talk about it because it turns out he didn't end up having a good career. And it was way downhill. And he never became what we thought he would become. He's an amazing man, an amazing father and husband and just a great guy.
He probably doesn't smile at the memory like you do.
of like how his career did not pan out the way? Oh, that's, listen, he's come to terms with it. There's a ton of talented players who don't get careers in sports, who have talent beyond belief. Jeremy Hermita, we thought was Ken Griffey. That's the swing. We just, we were all in on Hermita. He hits the grand slam. We think everything's great. GM, manager, everyone's jumping for joy.
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Chapter 5: How did the Marlins' history influence their home run legends?
It really would have made sense. Spaces loaded, doesn't matter. When he was at the height of hitting and steroids and everything like that, it just made no sense to ever pitch to him, ever. And yet, we have the instruction. Do not pitch to him. And I believe, Dan, and there's so many games to look back, I think it was extra innings when he hit that.
Well, I think it was a broken bat, too. I think the bat broke. Yeah, wasn't there a broken bat home run from Bonds to right field? I vividly remember sitting down the first baseline and seeing Barry Bonds hit a broken bat home run.
Are we just now telling old stories? Are we now just tellingā
Sorry. Sorry. How are you, Trista? Hey, Juju.
How we doing? Well, David, I DM'd you back, and I've been left on read, and so I've got a little bit of a bone to pick. Yeah, check the Twitter. Yeah, it's real.
Trista, we have a major issue right now.
Major. Have you been sending out the DMs that you were hosting a podcast? Did you text me?
Oh, look at that. Yes, I did.
When? When was that? Was that today? Trista?
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Chapter 6: What sparked the discussion about Mike Vrabel's counseling announcement?
And then on Saturday, he can't be seen in public because he knows that they're going to be talking about this on the television because they're not going to have other things to talk about.
but you missed something, he's gonna be in contact with the Patriots. So it's not the type of help that he's getting where they take away your phone. It's not that. It's not like sex rehab or drug rehab where you go in and you're out of touch. This is counseling. Maybe it's immersive counseling. Maybe it's just day counseling.
Maybe it's overnight, we don't know, but he'll be in touch with the team. The whole thing is so preposterous that I laughed and it's not fun to laugh about this because I feel for Diana who's just gotten railroaded by Vrabel, by him changing the story, either with her permission or without. He obviously chose his family over her.
We see that, because these are the exact steps that you do when you get caught and then you face it and then decide to go back or go forward. When you go back, you have to eliminate the distraction. But it just seems that the way he's disseminated the news has been clumsy.
How does this work though from a franchise to coach perspective, David? It doesn't seem like it was all Vrabel's idea alone. Is it like a drowning man pulls down whoever's near him, every man for himself sort of a thing?
We will make... an executive talk the way we want them to talk in public. You cannot make a player, you can ask a player to say a certain thing, but you can't make a player. And if you think the player is not gonna say what you want, you just don't make that player available to the media. When it comes to your manager, your coach, your GM, you can absolutely instruct them what to say.
They work for you. And I really think that the Patriots did get involved here and somehow, I mean, we're talking about Kraft and his strip mall massage. I guess they've got a crisis PR firm that views lying and then doubling down on the lie as smart. But they can certainly make Vrabel do it. Now, could Vrabel then say, I won't say that, Trista?
He can, but then he's risking being terminated for cause.
All right, so walk me through some of the humanity of this, David, because it's one thing to have the very public shaming of everyone is clucking and laughing at you, and then the very private one of whatever's happening in your personal life.
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