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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: B-B-B-B-B-BAD QUARTERBACKS

21 Oct 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the significance of Smirnoff in NFL culture?

1.28 - 10.498 Billy Gil

All right, kicking things off with Smirnoff, the official vodka sponsor of the NFL and the number one vodka in the world. Chris Cody, you're here. Smirnoff! Wow, you're on the money with Smirnoff.

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11.27 - 23.325 Billy Gil

Chris, you know what goes great with Smirnoff? Smirnoff! Yes, but I'm really talking about the game day fit. The style's got to match the vibe. Smirnoff! All right, here's the deal. Game day is everything. And that's exactly why your fit has to match the occasion. Smirnoff!

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23.606 - 39.292 Billy Gil

Starting this December, Smirnoff is giving fans 21 and over the chance to score limited edition Smirnoff commission merchandise from some of today's top creators, including Kayla Jones, Gavin Matthew, and Alaylee May. Smirnoff! Here's the kicker. One lucky fan will take home the grand prize, a trip to the biggest game of the offseason.

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39.332 - 48.157 Billy Gil

Plus, one fan will win a Lely Mays one-of-one game day jacket. Wow. The merch will be dropped on select dates from December to January 21, and it's all courtesy of what brand?

48.338 - 48.398

Me.

49.019 - 68.002 Billy Gil

That's right, Chris. Fans 21 and over can head to Smirnoff Socials to learn how to sign up. And don't forget to grab a bottle of Smirnoff vodka, number 21, at your local retailer. Smirnoff. Please drink responsibly. Smirnoff. Number 21 vodka distilled from grain, 40% alcohol by volume. The Smirnoff Company, New York, New York. Please do not share with anybody under legal drinking age. Smirnoff.

68.022 - 77.693 Billy Gil

No purchase necessary. Must be legal. U.S. resident, 21 or older. Sweepstake starts 12-15-2025 at 12 a.m. Eastern and ends 1-23-2026 at 11-59-59 p.m. Eastern. See official rules at program website.

78.685 - 105.337 Mike Ryan

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Chapter 2: How does C.J. Stroud's performance impact his career?

226.726 - 228.068 Chris Cody

Trying to set up what we're doing today, Dan.

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228.749 - 229.33 Billy Gil

Let me try it again.

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229.39 - 240.005 Chris Cody

Take two. Okay, but you said you wanted it. You said you were going to do the stat of the day music. You said you were going to get us off to a roaring start. And now look at us. Stat of the day. flailing about.

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240.366 - 258.788 Billy Gil

He didn't say any of that, Dan. Come on, be a teammate. For real. Lift him up. It's not like we seize on every mistake on this show. Here's the stat to beat. Okay, I'm going to say this stat and then we can go around the room if anyone wants to compete. But I got news for you. You're not going to beat this one. On Sunday, the Chiefs had 31st downs.

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258.808 - 264.638 Billy Gil

Also on Sunday, in the same game, the Raiders ran 30 plays. Try to beat that.

265.079 - 271.454 Chris Cody

You gave that stat yesterday. It's so good. You did? It was worth repeating. He gave that stat yesterday. These are recycled stats.

271.474 - 276.345 Billy Gil

Well, nice he said it twice. Yesterday, I just casually worked it into conversation. Today, gave it as a stat.

277.49 - 279.732 Unknown

All right, here's my stat. I'm going to try to beat it here.

280.013 - 299.634 Chris Cody

It shouldn't be very hard. This was a stat we already had yesterday, so all you have to have is a new stat. This game's very easy to play when all you have to do is produce a stat the audience doesn't know because they weren't listening yesterday when it was said and then recycled today and stole. This is like sponsored. Did you misspeak stole?

Chapter 3: What insights do we have about Brad Marchand's leadership?

489.338 - 500.957 Billy Gil

He was unbelievable, making every throw, super athletic. He himself is now saying, like, I've gotten old. What are you talking about? I would rather have Bryce Young at this point, and that was not the discussion.

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501.198 - 518.993 Chris Cody

Can I analyze something with you guys, though, that gets forgotten in wherever it is that it's superhuman Joe Burrow who can't be... shaken of confidence even as his body falls apart on the difficulties of playing the position because I think the humanity gets inside, it gets lost inside the helmet. So I ask you this question.

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519.153 - 541.769 Chris Cody

David Carr is the single best college quarterback I have ever seen, Fresno State with Pat Hill, and then he gets to the Houston Texans and gets sacked so much that they run him right out of the league because you cannot be sacked 55 times in that league and keep your confidence. You have to have confidence in that pocket. It's a terrifying place. It's violent and scary and you can get hurt. C.J.

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541.789 - 562.571 Chris Cody

Stroud was protected for many seasons, but that franchise can wreck a quarterback. And when I do the quarterback analysis, so much goes into this. I want to explore this with you guys because I think it's fascinating. Clearly, the way they do the measurements, Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold have unique skill sets that would make them good at the quarterback position.

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562.671 - 582.39 Chris Cody

But then they have to go through a million different things. That means burning up the Browns organization to the ground or failing in New York where it hurts to fail, learning whatever they had to learn. The measurement was right on what they are physically. Top five talents. They can play in this league. But it is a buzzsaw to be sacked.

582.37 - 596.85 Chris Cody

Cam Ward has been sacked 27 times this season and has five fumbles. Learn it, eat it in seven games, best college player. Your team is terrible, and you're going to be terrible too. Learn it fast, get ruined, or get better. Do it fast.

597.21 - 621.823 Billy Gil

Do it faster than ever. I'm a huge Jackass and Cam Ward fan. I love Cam Ward. I think it's really interesting that everyone who watches tape says this guy is going to be good. Surround him by the right talent. He's off to a worse start than Will Levis was. And if you watch these games, and I watch every single snap of Cam Ward. Yeah, and certainly the coaching staff. And Vrabel matters.

622.004 - 641.841 Billy Gil

And Vrabel matters. Vrabel does matter. But Cam Ward needs to do a better job of helping his team out. And it's not be number one pick great. I think when we apply proper context, we know how difficult that position is under the circumstances that he's playing it. Be better than Will Levis is a low mark to clear, and he's got to do that. And C.J. Stroud, same thing.

641.901 - 659.588 Billy Gil

I'm not going to say for three years pressure up the middle. You know what? Deal with the pressure up the middle. That's the fact of you playing football now for this franchise. Do better or they'll find somebody else. It's not just pressure up the middle. They know exactly what they're doing on defense to neuter C.J. Stroud, and he doesn't have an answer.

Chapter 4: How do injuries affect NFL team dynamics?

1398.169 - 1411.066 Chris Cody

And he's like, no, I want Cam Ward back here. I'll go for it. These coaches are crazy now on fourth and short. And it's the mathematically prudent thing to do. Because why wouldn't I throw deep to A.J. Brown? I've got that in my bag. Fourth and short.

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1411.086 - 1412.007 Billy Gil

Here's a 60-yarder.

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1412.267 - 1423.49 Chris Cody

I rarely use throwing to A.J. Brown deep. that team has dominated the sport for the last 24 weeks. And what they just did to Minnesota is like tear their soul out.

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1423.87 - 1436.841 Billy Gil

And the weird thing is like they want to play this like control the line of scrimmage game. They want to play complimentary football, run the ball 46 times, play great defense. But then they have these moments where you look at them against the Rams, they were down 26-7, come back, Jalen Hurts looks like the MVP.

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1436.861 - 1445.749 Billy Gil

And then this game against Minnesota where he looks, again, like one of the best quarterbacks in the league. You're like, why don't you just do that all the time? Like why are you guys trying to play this football brand that doesn't make sense?

1445.729 - 1463.691 Chris Cody

It's interesting to watch the ego check at the door when the quarterback can always play like that. And you're like, why aren't you guys always doing that? And it's what A.J. Brown's complaining about. He's like, oh, guys, hello. Guys, I used to do this in Tennessee. Look what they've become since I became, you know, this guy who you can always throw the ball to who's always open.

1463.971 - 1475.365 Chris Cody

It's a funny thing, is it not? Like we were introduced by Vrabel to A.J. Brown and the idea that Tennessee can play explosive football. And we'll fool another franchise into thinking Tannehill's the answer for six years.

1475.345 - 1496.34 Billy Gil

The Eagles sometimes in a way remind me of the big three era heat and that they would always try to win by playing defense and win like 85 to 82. And it was like, you have LeBron James, Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh. Why don't you just go score 120 and play with pace? And whenever they felt like it, they could. But for whatever reason...

1496.32 - 1504.309 Billy Gil

They decided, like, no, we want to be a defensive-oriented team. We want to hold possession of the ball like the Eagles. It made no sense then, and it doesn't make any sense to these guys.

Chapter 5: What are the implications of quarterback pressure in the NFL?

2011.474 - 2015.822 Unknown

Paul Bissonnette's got about 19 questions for you. He has a iPad, John, for some reason.

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2015.862 - 2034.737 Chris Cody

Is that Biz trying to get playmaking advice? No, I said that you guys have... What are we doing here, fellas? Time out. I said you guys have a big core group, and then you guys are familiar with each other's tendencies. All right, Brad? And by the way... Okay, I didn't catch that part. Yeah, well, if your ears were as big as your nose, you would have.

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2035.662 - 2056.827 Chris Cody

First of all, congratulations on your six-year deal. I'm no rocket Scientologist here, but that would bring you to 43. You're going to still be playing in six years, Brad? Well, the two choices I have are to keep playing or I've got to come sit and listen to you every day. So I want to keep doing this so that my ears don't take a beating.

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2056.807 - 2070.782 Chris Cody

We got a new guy on staff, Diener, and I wrote down the question he had. He goes, how does a 37-year-old who's so slow get so many breakaways? Can't really hear what you're saying, Biz, because I got my two cup brains plugged in my ears.

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2072.5 - 2078.932 Unknown

Beautiful. Perfect. Well played. Drop the mic.

2079.012 - 2087.027 Chris Cody

You can't do better than an eye patch there in terms of visually. There's just nothing I can put in there that's funny visually, funnier than the eye patch.

2087.047 - 2101.892 Billy Gil

Also, I like the point guard. I don't know who the guy is who's the host of the TNT. Liam McHugh. Okay, I feel like Hugh got very nervous there for a second. He's like, all right, mic drop, guys. Okay. All right, relax. Hockey's come a long way with its interviews. Yeah, I mean, the eye patch is just what you wear if you're a rocket Scientologist.

2103.435 - 2119.804 Chris Cody

The hockey player is a notoriously bad quote. You're not wrong when you say Marshawn dominates microphones. Tonight, basketball returns, and it does better. Thank you. with the soap operas than any of the other sports. We just read you. Everyone's eating up those details on Westbrook and LeBron.

2120.325 - 2147.563 Chris Cody

But I'm genuinely curious from the group here, because LeBron James has spent 20 years as this generation's most Dominant American athlete, but he's always paled and failed in chasing the ghost of Michael Jordan. And round ball rocks and NBC from a different time. Michael Jordan's return with Mike Tirico tonight as voice and face lording over the sport still from on high.

Chapter 6: How does the quarterback's environment influence their performance?

2223.231 - 2245.906 Billy Gil

They're going to produce this thing. You know who else has deficiencies when it comes to public speaking and being charismatic? Nick Saban and the guys at Goddamn Best on television right now. This is how I celebrate Peacocktober. Dan, I was going back into some of the archives of NBC and the NBA, and I think they need to bring back the monologue. The monologue is a missing place.

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2245.927 - 2247.309 Billy Gil

That made it feel so much bigger.

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2247.329 - 2249.892 Chris Cody

The Bob Costas monologue? Any monologue.

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2249.913 - 2256.723 Billy Gil

Give me a monologue, okay? Set the table for me. Set the scene. Make it feel big. This is big, and I need it to match with the monologue.

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2256.743 - 2264.254 Chris Cody

They wouldn't do that. They wouldn't bring Costas out of retirement just to do one essay to lead them in. What about Marv? If Tariq goes in charge. Marv.

2264.234 - 2284.854 Billy Gil

Aren't they bringing back an AI-generated voice to make it feel even more nostalgic? Yes. Yes, the guy who intros the actual broadcast. They got it right. The framing, the AI, the old school round ball rock. Just bring back the 90s graphic package. Exactly. I'm good with it. Yes, recreate that, please.

2285.074 - 2307.678 Chris Cody

Okay, but let's talk for a second here as we talked about TNT and the studio show and what producing and broadcasting requires. To have the correct touch, okay, on NBC returns to basketball, you're basically reaching for a whole lot of 40 and 45 and 50-year-olds who want to tap back in to when Michael Jordan and Ahmad Rashad were friends.

2308.258 - 2321.217 Billy Gil

It's what's happening with me. And it hurts me to say I am now one of those 40-year-olds that is looking to tap back into the sport. This is a nice way for me to start. There's going to be a basketball game on the TV every night this season, it would appear.

2321.237 - 2337.14 Chris Cody

Well, look at the framing of this. Look, man, so much is about to change. The Rams just played a game at 6 a.m., and you just saw a football game between Houston and Seattle. They're like going to bounce against time zones here to just hit you with as much action as you can as the streaming services are all in the fight for this stuff.

Chapter 7: What are the challenges of being a young quarterback in the NFL?

2410.08 - 2426.447 Chris Cody

Everywhere starts off great, but then you know someone has to be the bad guy, and it gets to be me. I'm always the one doing something unbearable all of a sudden, but that's okay. I get to play in this wonderful league with amazing teammates, but being here, they've only got one goal, to keep hanging those things up on the wall. Ain't no hidden agendas.

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2426.467 - 2432.087 Billy Gil

That's bullshit. What? He's being super truthful. I'm always the one that's making it unbearable.

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2432.969 - 2445.629 Mike Ryan

Yeah. No, but what hidden agenda had the Miami Heat had? There's one agenda. Win. Play basketball. Win. Where's the hidden agenda from the Miami Heat? That's why it's bullshit. What's he talking about? Man, Jimmy Butler.

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2447.212 - 2450.117 Billy Gil

He will always get under your skin. Will you ever forgive him?

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2451.88 - 2452.641 Mike Ryan

Forgive him for what?

2452.941 - 2462.584 Billy Gil

That's how I'm at. That's where I'm at with Zoe. Every time they do the, I know he was my boy. I know he was my boy during 2006. But every time I'm like, I remember what you did.

2462.744 - 2463.185 Mike Ryan

What did he do?

2464.026 - 2464.487 Billy Gil

Yeah. He left.

2465.628 - 2467.911 Mike Ryan

He got sick. He wanted him to leave.

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