The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Share & Atone & Tell with Nick Wright and Kevin Wildes
Fri, 10 Jan 2025
The co-hosts of "First Things First" join their arch-frenemy to debate: Should incorrect predictions be embarrassing? What's the best word in the sports discourse? And who is famous best? Plus: the second-smartest person in sports media, ranking rankings, flying cars without stereos, Sully Sullenberger, The Sam Darnoldification of Sports, and an ice-cream sandwich compliment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is the purpose of today's episode?
Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out. I am Pablo Torre. Today's episode is brought to you by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. And today we're going to find out what this sound is.
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What a delight to have you both here, by the way.
You know, thanks for having us.
Yeah. You're taking stock of your surroundings, Kevin.
Well, I've seen, you know, I'm a big fan.
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Chapter 2: What are the best words in sports discourse?
Yeah.
Typically, that creates the best show.
Yeah, some combination of the two.
Yeah.
But an emotional response with a statistical foundation is nice.
Yeah, no, no, no. It has to be based in fact, but a feel to it.
Yeah, with philosophical kind of a clash.
So I did high school debate. One of the things that I learned is that a key to ensuring a messy disagreement... is to never define the term that you're actually debating. Oh, and be valuable. Valuable, greatest. These are things where Nick has... Nick's brain has already activated.
If you were to put an fMRI on Nick's brain, as I said those words, you would have had already like a decision tree of just arguments about brains.
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Chapter 4: What is the significance of ranking in sports media?
Was that a take or just like an evolution of your life?
I think I was... Like mornings suck. I think I was dead wrong. Yeah. My take previously had been, I will never want to wake up this early. And now I'm regularly waking up this early. And it's better. Yeah. I get so much more done. Yeah, the mornings are great. Also, being a dad, I feel like I get to spend time and, you know. Yeah, that's the take. Mornings are better than night. Yeah, exactly.
I'll fall asleep at 11 p.m., 10.30 even.
Yeah, that's just called aging. Yeah, I think that's just maturity.
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This also brings us to the vocabulary portion. So what is this portion? It's just the idea... My favorite portion. It's your favorite? Yeah, go tell Pablo, sorry. Wilde, set it up, please.
Words that work for sports debate. Maybe like magic words. My favorite is deserve. Deserve is one of my favorite words. Does Lamar deserve to be a 10-point favorite? Does Russell Wilson deserve to be a 10-point underdog? Do the Chiefs deserve the bye? Like, what? They're 15-1. Yeah, but do they deserve it? It's just so good.
It's weighted with morality. Oh, it's just fantastic. Do they cosmically merit it?
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Chapter 5: Who is the second-smartest person in sports media?
Thanks, Pablo. Accurate. Nicest thing you've said to me in two hours.
Guy comes over to like the little, you're in like little squares. And the guy comes over and says, oh, Nick, love the show. And I'm like, I'm on the show. You know, I'm on the show. It's hard to like consume the show and not stumble across me, you know? It's like, I love the steakhouse. I'm the salt shaker. I'm there.
I'm not saying I'm the star of the show, but I am there, and you usually have to spot me. And then Nick very kindly senses this kind of tension because the guy's talking about the show. And, you know, Wilds, he goes, I don't know. Wilds right here. And the guy looks at me and goes, I think he said, do you want a picture with him? And the guy goes, yeah. Just kept talking to me.
Didn't walk away. No.
It was just like. I'm like buddy it's not even on film it's not even a college it's just a free it's not like when I was growing up like we only had 12 pieces of Kodak and we don't want to waste one there you go that's my level of fame Kevin Wilds Nick Wright I mean this when I say this two of the greatest guests that's not true in the history of how the story finds out why is it a trick?
because remember you said it's like a messy entanglement thanks Pablo bye Pablo
Pablo Torre Finds Out is produced by Walter Averoma, Ryan Cortez, Sam Dawig, Juan Galindo, Patrick Kim, Neely Lohman, Rob McRae, Rachel Miller Howard, Carl Scott, Matt Sullivan, Claire Taylor, Chris Tuminello, and Juliet Warren. Our studio engineering by RG Systems, our sound design by NGW Post, our theme song, as always, is by John Bravo. And we will talk to you next time.
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