He’s not quite America’s sweetheart… Anthony Jeselnik is more of America’s caliginous omen. But there IS a human being underneath the dark persona and all that bravado. Together, Dan and Anthony explore his endless well of ambition, his extreme drive to always be funnier, better, sharper. Anthony explains what he finds so funny about the darkest parts of humanity, and how he’s able to make people laugh about them. Anthony also dives into the state of comedy today, holding nothing back when it comes to criticizing the lazy state of the industry. Anthony then shares why the first ten minutes of his special is dedicated to defending trans people… and why he sees provoking for the sake of being provocative is an embarrassing way to perform. You can watch Anthony’s new Netflix special, Bones and All, available November 26th. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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